“Craps all over everything that has ever made the series interesting”
Is it IGNorance or is it the truth?
That will surely be the topic of debate throughout the Sonic community over the next several days and perhaps weeks, as IGN becomes the first major gaming media site to weigh in on Sonic and the Black Knight since Nintendo Power did it almost a month ago. Nintendo Power had kind things to say about the game. Overall, IGN’s Matt Casamassina did not.
In all, he gave SBK a 3.9 out of 10, a much lower score than the 7.2 given by them to Sonic Unleashed for the Wii, the 4.5 given to the XBOX 360 edition of Unleashed, and even the 4.2 given to the PS3 edition of Sonic the Hedgehog, a game almost universally panned by critics. You may remember that TSSZ News uncovered evidence that lead many to believe one of the IGN Unleashed reviewers, Hilary Goldstein, stopped playing the game not even halfway through.
Casamassina did praise the graphical prowess of SBK, but he warned gamers not to be deceived by the pretty pictures:
…Here is the second, integral component to consider: gameplay. And it’s here where Black Knight is defeated, slashed through its corrupted heart time and time again. Imagine the trademark intense speed, loop-de-loops, corkscrews, jumps and pinball mechanics that have helped define the Sonic name over the years. Good. Now throw all of that tried-and-true stuff out the window, slow down the action to a relative crawl, give the blue hedgehog a big sword, and throw enemy after enemy in his path. This is the backbone of the offensively awful design template that is a succubus, perpetually draining fun away from the experience. To make matters worse, Sonic himself is controlled clumsily with the nunchuk’s analog stick — he moves like a tank, barely able to nudge to the left and right so that he might sidestep approaching obstacles — and he is constantly locked in stupid swordplay.
Noteworthy in Casamassina’s review is that he did give the visual and presentation components of the game both 8.5 ratings. All in all, however, he wasn’t impressed, and there is again a comparison between the recent direction of the series and more classic fare:
Sonic & the Black Knight is a disappointing mess of presentational highs and design lows. The game will wow with its crisp cinemas, slick interface, online functionality and pretty in-game graphics, but when you sit down to play it, you will quickly discover a slow, clunky, boring affair ruined by stupid design choices. The intense speed, loop-de- loops, and pinball jumps that Sonic is known for have been altogether removed for insultingly bad swordplay tied to retarded Wii waggle that will leave your arm sore and your heart broken. There isn’t a level in Black Knight that is even one tenth as compelling as a single daylight mission in Sonic Unleashed.
This is a Sonic game that craps all over everything that has ever made the series interesting and then adds pointless waggle. More importantly, the end experience is altogether lackluster, not just for those who want a return to the form for the series, but for those who value fun, well-made games as a whole.
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I think around this point in time is where we all stop caring about what they think?
I mean, 8.0 from NP compared to 3.9 from these guys? I mean, I don’t know about you guys, but I think its obvious who is drinking the hateraide.
Personally I find it hard to believe either NP or IGN at this stage. An 8.5 (or was it 8.0? Memory’s a little sketchy…) from one and a 3.9 on the other? I’m waiting for more publications and most importantly fan input.
I have the same issues where I don’t like being able to substitute gestures with waggle and would prefer for the game to know whether I’m swinging horizontally, vertically, shaking the remote or putting it on a box and tapping it (shameless plug for Let’s Tap)….
But isn’t that what happened in Twilight Princess? Forgive me if I’m wrong but the game didn’t seem to tell the difference there, either – you had to add button presses for it to interpret different gestures.
No, I’m not trying to call bias. I’m simply saying I find it hard to believe EITHER publication when they’re so radically different in their opinions. But of course, being the biased little Sonic fan who cares more about story and characters than they do about gameplay…of course I’m going to want to swing more to how NP sees it. XD
DAMN NO!
After hearing what these IGN guys from their voicechat said I thought that they’d give this game at last a mediocre reception, but THIS?!
But at last I this helped me to recognize what “ruins” the series.
It’s not the games, or the characters… to me, obviously the fans ruin the series. Sincever the 3D games started, most of the fans where unhappy with at last one thing in the games:
Adventure: “Oh no, Big, he is so dumb, his gameplay sucks blahblah”
Adventure 2: “Oh no, they introduced another Hedgehog! Oh no, not again this treasure hunting!”
Heroes: “Teams? No! Sonic is supposed to go through the levels on his own!”
Shadow: “Guns and vehicles, this has nothing to do with Sonic gameplay!” (Oh yeah, and Shadow was supposed to start off A NEW SERIES. It was never supposed to be a Sonic game, it always should be a Shadow game. But since all fans saw it as Sonic game, the Shadow series ended with the game it started.)
Sonic 06: “Glitches. Loading Screens. HedgehogxHuman (Agree with these parts however). And another new Hedgehog? This sucks!”
Unleashed: “Oh noes, Werehog!”
When you guys are never satisfied with the games, you can hope forever for the perfect game. To me, most of the points above are things I could overlook, but these reviewers… to me they all seem like 5-year old kids who want all the 3D games just as the old games were. And when these kids don’t get what they want, they’re gonna make everybody believe that the games aren’t good. Or at last try to do so.
It should be at least passable.
man that voice chat was a trap to get you to believe that the Black Knight game would be decent to them and then Bam!
Imagine what Gametrailers or Gamespot will give this game
It isnt suprise for me. I know IGN will be so stupid.
What just pisses me of is one thing:
When they always that Sonic is dead, then why CAN’T THEY JUST LEAVE THE REVIEWING OF HIS GAMES TO SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO DO IT? Maan.
iNAUDiBLE: Yeah, your right. I don’t care about them.
I don’t know about anyone else, but there was an IGN article about where Sonic went wrong and guess what, they said Sonic went wrong at Sonic the Hedgehog 3.
I also saw that they nelected to mention anything about the multiplayer mode, playing as Shadow, Blaze, and Knuckles, waggle is also in Twilight Princess on the Wii along with some other first party games that get higher than a 9, and apparently Sonic needs to be a bland 2D racing car game where you go from point A to B to get any praise. I personally like the NP and Famitsu reviews more.
Oh yeah
IGN=Fail
Don’t listen to IGN. When they say that somethings bad, it’s good. When they say somethings good, it’s good! They are strange!
Well they gave Twilight Princess a 9.5 out of 10, and it IS rather good.
This is because he LOVED MadWorld, if Mario and MadWorld came out on the Wii in the same week, which would he? I go with MadWorld because he’ll on purposely give the Mario game a bad review for a M rated game.
Also note that the above is not at MadWorld but at how barbarian people can be and all they want is to see blood everywhere and people ripped in two.
Spider: What do tou mean? What has MadWorld to do with this?
The review is fair…
That said, 3′s and 4′s are average scores for IGN. I have no idea why they rate on such a low scale.
SatBK still deserves 8!
Crazee: Fail again
IGN must die and go to hell -_- and wtf they said when they made Sonic the Hedgehog 3 thats where sonic went wrong… wtf thats considered 1 of the best Sonic games omfg there a bunch of idiots burn in hell IGN
You guys are effing idiots. Nintendo Power gives MOST things scores way beyond reason.
Shouldn’t IGN review the game on its own and stop comparing it to the 16 bit days of sonic, THEY ARE UNCOMPARABLE!
IGN schuld find someone that knows how to review a Sonic game!
Now they made me afraid!
“I don’t know about anyone else, but there was an IGN article about where Sonic went wrong and guess what, they said Sonic went wrong at Sonic the Hedgehog 3.”
Would you mind posting the link to that? I’d like to read it cause that’s just stupid. Sonic 3 IMO is not only the best in the series by a mile, but my favourite game of all time.
As for this review, I thought right from the start that Black Knight looked a bit on the lame and gimmicky side…and since most of Sonic Team’s efforts were going into PS360 edition of Unleashed (FANTASTIC game BTW), that this wasn’t going to have much time devoted to it. I can’t say I’m really surprised
This was made by the secret rings team not the Unleashed team
There’s absolutely no way this game deserves a 3.9. They give those shitty ‘Imagine’ and ‘Petz’ games at LEAST a 4 every time. I’m about to go pick-up my copy now and enjoy it. DAMMIT!
Guys, if we complain about every review…our complaints will sound like whining when the reviews are genuinely abysmal(SU 360). This game is under reviewed, but it’s not as abysmally underrated as SU. Maybe a 5/10 or higher would be appropriate. I’ll have my copy in a couple hours.
I cant wait but the reviewers scar me. I really hope the others are smarter the IGN!
3.9 is a fair score. I would have given it a zero.
“Shouldn’t IGN review the game on its own and stop comparing it to the 16 bit days of sonic, THEY ARE UNCOMPARABLE!”
Sounds like denial.
I so predicted IGN smack gonna a big dirty review on top of SBK’s gaming reputation just to make morons brawl more with drama. Just play the damn game, and have you’re own stupid opinion. Not listen to some chimp who can’t play a game average for 2 seconds.
Theoretically, it’s just IGN taking a game they get paid to bash. They don’t even have to play it! That goes for other companies. They don’t care if it’s a famous game character. As long as there’s cash involved.
Sadly, we just have to live with these kinds of flames, and torment of these dark times. People are obnoxious, want so much from a game that it isn’t funny. Milking it’s deposits till there is no more.
Black Knight is a horrible game and I fully agree with IGN’s rating.
dont listen to IGN. they just hate sonic. and thats all there is to it.
Mathematically the real score should have been 6.1!
IGN IS BIASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IGN’s Where Sonic went wrong?
http://retro.ign.com/articles/955/955741p2.html
Don’t you morons remember what Ketsu said? It’s really deep and profound.
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Tweaker: Fail
Omega… something: What was that aboutl? You didn’t even say Sonic!
Omega: What does the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air have to do with this
whoever does the reviews for sonic at IGN needs to realize that his joke is over, and sonic games are getting good again.
http://retro.ign.com/articles/955/955741p2.html
SPIDER: I swear drugs had to be involved in that article. Sonic went wrong at Sonic 3, JUST WRONG!
I can’t believe IGN would give it a 3.9(okay..maybe I did.), but really, that seems like the biggest F.U. to Sonic fans.
*sigh*
If you like it, then enjoy it. I like Shadow’s game.
Gonna have to agree with Tweaker on this one.
@Sonic41: No, Sega themselves gave the biggest F.U to Sonic fans by making this game and keeping the series running as it has been since Sonic Adventure. Unleashed was a nice break from shit, but they have no one to blame but themselves.
I think they are being generous. I want to give SBK a 0/10.
@ Phos
- what I mean is that Sonic 2D games and Sonic 3D games are completely different , and I think that sonic and the black knight shouldnt be compared to 2D sonic games, if its 3D, and also a spinoff
Totally disagree with Sonic 3 being where it all went wrong (that’d be the second somebody dreamed up f***ing Rouge for my money) and Unleashed is definitely going a long way to put things right. But some parts of that article are right. The huge cast of stupid characters is probably the worst part about Sonic for me now, hence why I liked Unleashed and loathed Heroes. The only good characters are Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow. Amy is OK as long as she’s not playble and Silver was passable. THE REST SUCKED. Rouge was easily my most hated, followed by Cream, Charmy and that stupid robot E123 wotsit.
Two things. Number one generally magazines or websites that cover multiple consoles such as IGN give games lower scores then Magazines who’s success lies soles with one or two consoles such as the case with Nintendo Power. Another rule is that not every review has the same grading system even if the numbers are the same. Get over it. SBK is probably a horrid game as most of the games in past 8 years from Sega have been.
To bryce.
Ive been playing it and its awesome. its not horrid at all.
I think they are being immature. I mean, who the hell uses the word “retarded” in a professional review?
Well, I don’t plan on commenting here often but I feel this place needs to hear my opinion since it seems everyone is so one sided. For the people who say Black Knight deserves 0/10, I’ll say this. There is no game in existence that deserves that. The effort of having the game out makes it worth more than a zero. A 0/10 is basically, incomplete and unplayable. Black Knight can be played and won, making it better than 0 already.
For everyone who is saying IGN is unfair for giving IGN the score. Ignore it and simply try the game yourself, maybe they are right. I have doubts from personal experience showing IGN doesn’t know what they are talking about, but that’s what a review is, a biased evaluation of the game. Almost everything, if not everything, that was mentioned in the review was opinion based. For an example: Easy game? Depends on the skill level of the player.
I really wouldn’t go mental over this guys until YOU play the game and be the judge. In all honesty I would rather rely on EDGE or GAMES t.m. before going mental.
My Opinion, NP has always been biased to give their nintendo games high scores cause they work for nintendo and want to sell the game. IGN from what I “hear” is supposed to be biased against sonic games and they give it a low score (with the exception of sonic heroes which I think they botched big time on and it needed a 3 or 2). But then again I myself am not to happy with many different sonic games as of late so what I think is that these two reviews are actually going to be the number field you will be looking between for the rest of the reviews even though at this point I lean more toward IGNs side. I never expected BK to be a worthwhile game from the get go when I first saw the NP Magazine cover. It’s the sonic game cycle all over again and I’m sure fans will praise this game even after they’ve fallen into a pit the 100th time, game overed more than 30 due to no fault of their own and can’t get more than 1 or 2 chaos emeralds due to the game engine/bad level design or whatever.