Sonic Stadium Bans Fan Film Discussion
Tristan Oliver | November 9, 2009
Forum Admin Calls Kuta “Narcissistic,” Project “Filth”
The Sonic Stadium, which recently realigned itself as nothing more than a fan site and is typically tolerant of most fan work promotion (even having reporters dedicated to such projects on the front page’s Community Blog,) will apparently no longer support efforts to revive Richard Kuta’s Sonic fan film.
That is the stand Sonic Stadium Message Board administrator Roarz, who on Saturday threatened to “instantly” ban any member who posts anything about either the call-in effort to Sega of Japan to get it back off the ground, or the project itself.
“Most people who really have a passion go out and make things happen, they don’t whore themselves on every conceivable Sonic site,” the admin noted.
Roarz himself, who used to assume the name Roarey Raccoon on the forum and whose interests on his profile include “cartoony furry art,” went off in saying the threat was, in his words, “a bit of fun,” calling the project itself “hackneyed, pointless filth.”
Roarz himself called Kuta, who was behind the project until he abruptly put the brakes on it, a “narcissistic prat” who can “bugger off.”
The new, arbitrary policy and its delivery seem to fly in the face of several aspects of the SSMB, which includes, among other things, a Sonic Showcase sub-forum, where members can discuss fan created works, including video. The forum’s rules note a 3 strike system for infractions that include spamming, but rights are reserved to immediately ban individuals who are either “downright obnoxious” or the “worst offenders.” Of note here is Roarz’s personal attack on Kuta himself in the announcement; Kuta is a member of the SSMB, and the rules do not allow member flaming, a rule that apparently doesn’t apply to the forum’s administrators.
This, while Kuta, as far as can be found, has not blantatly promoted the project on SSMB.
If it holds, it would be a major setback in rallying fan support to get the Sonic fan film back off the ground. Several SSMB members have been supportive of the effort, but some discussions have gotten out of hand, forcing topic locks at the hands of SSMB moderators.
It’s not clear whether other SSMB admins or TSS staff agree or support Roarz’s mandate. But while TSS had originally endorsed the effort–and Kuta himself–several years back, later coverage in 2007 had taken a more critical approach.
Filed Under Sonic Fan Flash, Sonic Scene
No need to go quoting Roarey in such a negative way, Trist.
Do we honestly need more sparks bein’ thrown around?
Kuta jus keeps getting into trouble. Although I’m not directly blaming him, wherever he goes, topics get blocked, and members get banned…
I dont like the project either, but people have a right to free speech and should be allowed to talk about it. He shouldnt let his personal feelings get in the way of a decision.
He doesn’t have personal feelings for it. It’s a meh topic about a film that was never going commecial in the first place, despite the project lead claiming (read: lying) that major production studio’s were interested. In other words, people claiming it’s real, it’s fake, too bad, poor dear blah blah, going in circles. Pretty much, unless an official source besides Kuta comes out and validates his statements, I think it’s perfectly fair for anyone to doubt him. And for topics to be banned about him.
Basically, the topic doesn’t fit in the fan-made forum because it’s not the merits of the film being discussed anymore, it’s the political situation the film now finds itself in and the validity of it’s infamous project lead. In other words, a topic about the fan film has degraded into chinese whispers and tabloid hoo-hah. Smart decision by the admins to stem the bleed before it gets out of control.
And to be honest, no one is paying fees to be apart of the forum, so they don’t need to answer to anyone in regards to this anyway.
I love how the quotes are typically English. The language used here is not very strong and therefore can be considered almost playful. There are, however, subtle hints that he and others are tiring of this story. Very subtle hints. Yes…
It is the same with anything that becomes over-exposed; boring.
More community drama. What a surprise.
You don’t understand. Sonicthehedgehog360 put up stuff about it, not Kuta.
Yawn.
Can we please let this die? Nothing will come of it. The film will NEVER be official, those who think SoJ give a shit are just stupid, I’m sorry, but you are.
If the film does get made, it’ll be average at the very best. The artwork in the trailer looked….ok. Nothing special, and people who’ve read the script said it was terrible, so I doubt we’ll be getting anything Oscar worthy.
That being said if Kuta or whoever does finish it, then I will at least raise a glass to them for finally making a proper Sonic film (Sanime really doesn’t count). Even if it isn’t good, it’ll still be a milestone.
(EDIT – Inflammatory -T)
That said, Roarey needs to stop quitting and coming back months later, same with the other SSMB staff. >_>
I have to ask why this sort of thing is still reported. Seriously, I thought everyone would have stopped caring by now.
About time someone says this, so sick of hearing about this movie.
Roarey rocks
@Tristan
Do you seriously have nothing better to do than go stalking other fan sites and harass them on your website with negative stories? Why can’t you just leave us and the other fan sites alone?
Do pots have nothing better to do than egg on kettles?
I guess not.
-T
I don’t care what you say Tristan, harassment(especially at your constant record) is just plain wrong. This isn’t even news worthy to begin with. Just back off and leave us fan sites alone.
I enjoy how I don’t get talk like this when I post stuff about…say, Sonic Relief.
-T
Wow. I wasn’t buying it when I heard that you reported forum drama, but this is pretty much WTF. Is the news week really that slow that you have to give Kuta yet another article pertaining to his imaginary movie project? Probably should change this site’s name from TSSZ to TMZ given all the gossipy crap you give front page billing.
Also, I won’t argue about Roarz being a backseat admin who’s usually “late to the party” when shit arises on that forum (i.e. making comments about said issue after another mod/admin had already settled it). I don’t know what admin goes around needing to have the last say when shit’s already been taken care of or fixed.
As for the discussion of Kuta’s movie on SSMB, I guess you forgot that their forums lost data earlier this year and had to be rebuilt from scratch. There had been several topics started by folks “defending” Kuta’s movie pitch about how it was oh so real and how he should get mad props for doing it. And each and every time it got flamed to high hell by forum members who were simply tired of hearing about Kuta’s bullshit or the fact that it was brought up. The topic that resulted in this gag rule being placed into effect was actually started by Sonic 360 himself in a failed attempted at plugging his silly call-in. It didn’t get very far before one of the admins closed it to prevent it from getting out of hand, and by “it” I mean flaming/lack of support.
You’ve probably given Kuta a reason to whine freely now about how Sonic Stadium hates him and doesn’t understand his greatness, but in reality the members as a whole are by now skeptical as hell about his movie project given how much it’s been spammed there from time to time, along with the lack of results accredited to it.
If anything it’s merely a preventative measure to prevent more of the same flaming from happening because it’s pretty
Congratulations Tristan, you’re now officially more bias than Fox “news”. Seriously, even those completely ridiculous teabag protest were more news worthy than this.
Ah… Why am I not surprised that douchebaggery is taking place?
Way to show professionalism, Roarz. An admin is not supposed to have a hissy fit yet here you go, instantly banning people if they speak of the project.
What can I say? The Sonic fan base does not allow for opinion. Gah… Why has everything fallen so far from glory?
Because thats good news, thats news worthy, benefits the community and has a point. Writing childish negative articles that give a fan site a bad name like this and all that Sonic Retro stuff is just plain harassment.
(con’t): redundant to say the least. Kuta or a minion of his makes a topic concerning the credibility of the movie as opposed to its progress, so what the hell do you think would happen each time? Folks would yell “proof or GTFO’”. Which is exactly what’s happened in most instances.
@ Tristan – you can bring this smack up about Sonic Stadium yet go around deleting links about Kuta in the last few articles even when they were relevant to the discussion? I still don’t get why you deleted Mysterious Guy Y’s link to that dA journal he made admitting several things about his past/movie pitch.
Yeah, I too would like to know why that link was removed? I hardly think posting a link to something that a person wrote about themselves is a personal attack.
“Sonic & Klonoa” “Sonic x Tails” sonic’s SEGA Forum search! yes,
As a TSS Staff member my opinion is that maybe there is something more interesting to make a front page article on? Come on guys, can the pandering to the stereotypical community drama please stop?
Douchebaggery doing something justifiable at last…
@Kits’Okami:
Oh really? You must be moronic if you want your will to speak freely of your opinion taken away. Roarz, I look down upon you. You have proven to be immature.
@Shadzter: The writers here can write what they want, there’s not much you can do about it other than whine. I personally enjoy the articles that write on the positive or negative aspects of the online community.
You claim this site is bringing your site down, when you’re the one who started the bull in the first place — and put in such a childish tone, at that. It would’ve looked better on you if you was a bit more professional on the issue, rather than saying crap like “Make a topic about this lump of shit and you get instantly banned, hows that for a bag of crisps (the popular saying eludes me at this point, whoopsie daisy)?”
(EDIT – Inflammatory–one more and it’s a ban. -T)
Slow news day, -T?
I can’t say I disagree with Roarey’s stance on Kuta’s project (I think I repeated myself enough on that subject) but I’m glad I’m not the only one who has noticed Roarey’s bullcrap either as well as some of the other staff members at SSMB.
Don’t get me wrong, SSMB is an okay site and I do like some of the members that go there but SOME of the staff there really are hypocritical, immature jerks. Roarey/Roaz is on top of that list. He has bashed and cussed out other members on the forum even when some members haven’t warrant such actions. but yet members are prohibited to bash others. I’ve seen some of the admins/mods call members pathetic, twats, losers and some other childish names Even though the site proclaims it’s a respectable Sonic site, some of it’s staff don’t exhibit such behavior and are sometimes ultra sensitive if their opinion is being challenged.
I admit I have seen members get out of hand and had to be reprimanded. But shouldn’t a admin or mod represent better behavior and not stoop to the level on whoever they think is being obnoxious.
Just recently I saw members get banned for having an argument with a mod. A mod who is just as guilty for the argument as the members involved were. The members got banned and were bashed OPENLY for all to see. Which is downright retarded considering the admin’s bashing post was made AFTER the ban, so none of the ban members could see it. What the hell is the point of making a post addressed to those members if they can’t see it, when their IP’s are banned from entering the board? And what about the mod that was just as guilty? Oh They are still a moderator and didn’t get reprimanded like the other members did or at least not publicly reprimanded anyway. If that not downright bias and hypocrisy I don’t know what is.
Other than the crap that happens there, It’s an alright site with a good amount of decent members, like I said before. But it’s sad to say I finally understand why some Sonic fans in the fanbase despise the site.
@ Greg: As much of a douche as I think Roarz is in general, he was/still is justified in putting a moritorium over on this movie project. I already pointed out that prior topics to this were usually started by folks trying to defend the “authenticity” Kuta claimed to have had with this project, which usually amounted to little more than “BAWW! Kuta’s movie is for realz, yo! Stop hatin’”.
Besides, what the hell are you complaining about? You started the second to last topic on this silly movie project and that got raped to high hell by folks who weren’t buying Kuta’s movie jive and were skeptical throughout the whole discussion. If anything I’d think you’d be glad about it and move on to a forum that would probably…appreciate – oh wait. SMS got fed up with Kuta’s last two topics about this and locked those two. D:
And let’s not forget FuS, where this all started. Right now I’d imagine they’re laughing their asses off at how crazy this has gotten.
If anything, it’s just one more forum for Kuta to add to his “Not Welcome” list because he wore it out with his special brand of fuckery more times than I care to count.
Another note I would like to make. I’m not saying all TSS staffers are jerks or are hypocrites, just some are.
Fortunately this forum ban doesn’t include IRC or listening in to SSR. Or checking the podcasts.
Roarey is a pretty rad guy, dudes. Don’t be hatin’! :colbert:
Wow. WOW. I cannot think of a single more irrelevant, inappropriate addendum to to include along with a description of Roarey’s actions. You have singlehandedly proven that you are actively trying to portray the subjects of these articles in a negative light. Forum administration aside, that is a serious douche move.
(EDIT – Inflammatory -T)
It’s no secret that despite the mass of furries in the Sonic fandom, they’re severely looked down upon by a large–if not overwhelming–portion of the internet. This is just plain fucking slander and it was completely uncalled for. Jesus christ, Tristan.
On the subject of the actual administration, a forum admin is entitled to do whatever they please within the realm of their own private establishment. I don’t see the problem here.
I see a problem… It’s just not with anyone but the person who writes any of these articles thinking the gain merit.
@ Tweaker: Yeah, I noticed that too. As much as I think Roarz is a douche, I thought that was pretty irrelevant. Compared to the double standard he’s holding to Kuta and comments concerning his C&D notices or screenshots of stuff he’s said.
Double motherfucking standard if I do say so myself. D: Do what you preach, T.
Ah, the old ‘need more page hits’ story. Excellent. Can I just say though;
1. It’s probably worth knowing the context in which Roarey Raccoon made that topic. Some of the comments on this article had the history of SSMB discussion on the matter down better than the article itself. Discussion led to flamewars based on the teeter-totter of opinion that plagued this site when recent Kuta-related stories emerged.
2. I’m not sure why people keep bringing up the ‘unprofessional’ card, in a fanbase. If you want professionalism, don’t go to a website that’s made and run by FANS that enjoy the Sonic series. The fact that I myself am a professional games journalist should not mean a fansite that I (and many other people) maintain in our spare time should be subject to the same expectations.
3. I’m a Sonic fan. I love Sonic. The people who run TSS and SSMB are too. The site and forum we run, we do in our own time. With our own money. We should not have to suffer fools that visit our website/forum – or discussions that promote such activity – if it ruins our enjoyment of maintaining said site and forum.
You lot seem to want the best and expect me to just be your butler or something. Well if I ran a commercial website maybe you’d have a point. But I find it bizarre that people expect to flame on my site and get away with it; that they can happily go to my Summer of Sonic convention and expect freebies and then sod off; that they expect me to accept people’s “freedom of speech” if it covers ground that is almost five years old (I mean honestly, you really think this Kuta business is news? TSS was reporting it two years ago). And when I (or someone who doesn’t speak for me in this case) decide to simply say ‘enough is enough’, we’re scrutinized and at regular times implied to be an idiot by Tristan. And when TSSZ readers take a look at it, they in fact AGREE and decide to/continue to hate me and my website.
And yet on top of ALL of this abuse I get, people expect me to take it all with a smile and a nod! XD I’m sorry. But I don’t think I owe anyone anything. I’ve done more than my fair share of good things for this community. Some credit and understanding on other people’s part would be nice once in a while. But I’m sure you’ll continue to take take take, moan moan moan, dig dig dig.
4. Part of the reason that people on this site might be fed up of me, my site or my staff is most probably because of the amount of times it is unnecessarily covered on this website. Don’t worry, I’m tired of this bullshit too, and I’m fed up of seeing my site on here like this. Tristan has said before that “Well, you shouldn’t say anything stupid/dumb/whatever in the first place”, but that’s not the point, is it? The question is whether this is newsworthy, and I fail to see any reason why Tristan may think it is so, barring page hits from causing inter-site drama.
Tristan, I’m tired of it. I’ve left you alone. I don’t see why you have to target my website like this continuously. I think the question you have to ask is not “is this newsworthy”, but rather “do my readers want to know about this?”. Your answer, as commanded by your readership, is a resounding ‘no’. So I’d like to know, who or what does this story benefit?
Cheers,
Svend / Dreadknux.
(EDIT – One more and it’s a ban. -T)
What is this I don’t even
(EDIT – One more and it’s sexual harrassment. No means no -T)
One more and it’s a ban, huh?
Okay, I’ll bite. What, exactly, about my comment is inflammatory? And I’d like an actual explanation, not more bullshit where you edit out my posts to avoid having to justify your actions.
So Tristan, instead of hiding behind your edits, why don’t you give us a real answer. Why is Roarz interests at all relevant, but everytime someone points out one of Kuto’s interests or any of his antics, it’s inflammatory? I want you to answer this and stop double standarding.
Tristan, why are you so insecure?
Tristan, I saw Tweaker’s post… and it wasn’t inflammatory. I think you’re in grave danger of falling on your own sword. As a fellow admin, I’ll ask you not to put yourself in such a precarious, hypocritical situation.
@ Dreadknux – I think it’s already too late for that. This Kuta article series has had hypocrisy written all over it and then some. =(
I just… Wish I could’ve seen him smile. Nicely.
You just got “F’d in the A” Trisitan.
The reason I’m editing posts left and right is because in two previous stories, I warned quite clearly that I was not going to tolerate anything linked to or referencing AED or its contents. That includes personal photos on them, or one’s interpretation of it. A personal preference has nothing to do with someone attempting a fan film, and it doesn’t belong here, period–especially given the youth of some of our audience. I was not kidding about that warning, and I’m going to repeat it for hopefully the last time here.
The reason Roarey’s background is noted here is because it’s part of varying levels of irony that just bleeds in the story. If Kuta is doing this to appeal to the furries, as some have speculated, it is strange to see someone who aligns himself with “cartoon furry art” go off at this. Irony. It’s that simple.
I don’t force people to read the stories; I merely post them. You won’t see me spamming the message boards with a link to this. So, judging by how many have read the story so far today (it is our most read by far), I can say quite decisively that my readers DO want to know what’s going on. Not only that, they want to discuss it, and I’ve been very good at allowing BOTH points of view to express their thoughts, and letting the discussion continue.
It’s a damn shame The Sonic Stadium and its staff can’t see it the same way, and obviously don’t have the moderating capacity to let a civil discussion about the merits of a fan film on the ropes continue on their end–instead, letting their own personal bias get in the way.
-T
………….I dunno about you guys but sounded like shit to me.
“The reason Roarey’s background is noted here is because it’s part of varying levels of irony that just bleeds in the story. If Kuta is doing this to appeal to the furries, as some have speculated, it is strange to see someone who aligns himself with “cartoon furry art” go off at this. Irony. It’s that simple.”
Wow, I don’t even know how to respond to this. This basically reads along the lines of “just because you’re furry, you have to support EVERYTHING furry”. I.. Can’t even respond tot his logically.
I mean, what you basically just said is.. Well, how do I put this? It’s more or less something along the lines “just because you enjoy one movie means you enjoy EVERY MOVIE EVER” or something equally as daft.
Made a commercial for you, it’s about a 20 second spot.
http://instantsonic.sonicretro.org/audio/voice_acting/TSSZnews_anti-inflammatory_ad.mp3
@FTA: Seconded. If I’m reading this correctly, Tristan is basically saying that Roarz and/or any other furry should shut up about Kuta’s movie because it’s about furries.
…lolwut?
@ InstantSonic – A++ and spot on.
I’m not referencing his ED article; in fact, I absolutely despise Encyclopedia Dramatica and anything remotely connected with it. What I stated was a fact that Kuta himself has confirmed on more than one occasion, and which I personally find no shame in admitting. If people have a problem with his own personal life choices, that’s their problem–not his.
As for the “irony”… how is that ironic? By all means, a good portion of people who are into the Sonic series can to some extent say they can at least tolerate anthropomorphic characters, which have existed and been used in literature since the earliest folk tales and works of fiction. Having a particular interest in that kind of surreality doesn’t mean that every work to contain those kinds of characters are going to be invariably interesting; if that were so, several hundreds of failed franchises and even Sonic games would be universally loved by this group of people just for having those characters in it. But they don’t, and they’re not.
I haven’t seen any evidence–or even claims–that Kuta’s movie has been made with any particular aim to appeal to the furry fanbase than any other fan production featuring Sonic the Hedgehog characters. Is the Sonic OVA supposed to specifically cater to furries or something? That doesn’t really make any sense.
With that in mind… while I appreciate an explanation, I’m still not really seeing any solid reasoning for my posts to be deemed “inflammatory.” I made a solid point that I think should have been seen and considered not only by your eyes, but by the group of peers–the massive group of peers, as you yourself have noted–that are present in the comments section on this particular news article. My aim was not to be inflammatory–nor was I–and there is very much validity behind the point I’ve made.
So please, spare me this “one more time and it’s a ban” bollocks. I haven’t been inflammatory, I’m not going to be inflammatory, and I never have been inflammatory. I wish no ill towards Kuta, nor do I feel he should be looked down upon for what he does in his spare time. He interests and his life are his own, and nobody has the right to judge him for that. In the scope of his actions regarding this movie, however… that’s a different story; one that I’m not terribly interested in, mind you, but a story nonetheless.
@Not Surprised: I concur my good man. It’s the most ass-backwards thinking ever. It’s the same as all those so-called “True Sonic Fans” from a few years back that flooded forums and YouTube saying stuff like “A true Sonic fan loves every game he’s in. Only fake fans hate them.”
Just the stupidest thing ever. Just because you like something doesn’t mean you have to like EVERYTHING about it. Like I like my pet dog, but not when she jumps up and hits me in the balls.
Amrtie?
“It’s a damn shame The Sonic Stadium and its staff can’t see it the same way, and obviously don’t have the moderating capacity to let a civil discussion about the merits of a fan film on the ropes continue on their end–instead, letting their own personal bias get in the way.”
With respect, Tristan, if you had managed to stick around and be dedicated to the fanbase from 2005 onwards, you’ll have known how far, how long and how tense this situation is. I consider my admins and mods to be the best out there, but even then you can’t simply have a freedom to say whatever.
Perhaps the same could be reversed for you. Do you have the moderating capacity or competence to allow people to talk about Kuta’s past, even when it is relevant to the article (or rather, your reporting of the kind)? I’m not so sure you should be indirectly calling out the competence of my forum mods when you are prone to editing your own user’s comments left, right and centre. And yes, your reasons why was piss-weak, to say the least.
But that’s okay, because at the end of the day you can allow or cease discussion on whatever you like, right? It’s your site. So why, then, is it so difficult for you comprehend that TSS and SSMB is quite in its right to do exactly the same?
I can’t speak for Roarey, but I believe he actually has no strong feelings one way or the other about this topic, despite his vulgar wording. Roarey Raccoon, for those who don’t know him, is a very sarcastic, ironic dude and takes great pleasure in using as many cusswords as possible. I purely think that he was being funny, but that’s for him to say (or not, I don’t see why he should have to answer to this article at all).
It’s cute that you attempted to psycho-analyse Roarey in your article (again, your reasoning to do so is weak) and try to drag out irony, but this line of yours is quite important;
“If Kuta is doing this to appeal to the furries, as some have speculated,”
Who actually speculated this? If Roarey never said this phrase, then you have no reason for bringing up his past. If he did say the phrase, what does calling him out on irony achieve other than to belittle him?
So. You have a choice Tristan. You were either bringing up Roarey’s history to call on his irony, belittle him and thus were not covering this story in an unbiased manner (something you have been keen to take pride in). Or, you brought up his furry past based on something that he never said. Knocking your credibility as well.
Nice one Tristan, I was having a really shit day today but this has really picked it up for me. I love attention and whatnot. Anyway, I banned the topics because they’re tripe and I’m sick of seeing the flamewars; I swear a lot and use base language, adding insults, purely because I think it’s funny and it makes for a more entertaining read. All this codswallop about maturity is a right pisstake; who makes judgemental knee-jerkers the arbiters of mature behaviour?
I couldn’t care less about this issue, it’s boring. My topic slagging this guy off is the only interesting thing to come of the issue on SSMB. Must have been really, you made a fucking news story about it. Haha.
Lol Tristan and his fair and balanced “let’s delete/edit the comments that disagree with me” moderating.
… wow, no words for how amazingly pointless, biased and ridiculous this whole ‘news’ story is. My eyes literally bugged in disbelief at the line about Roarey’s interest in ‘furry art’. This whole article is a blatant bash at a respected admin, and really has nothing at all to do with Kuta and his movie.
Which has been spammed about all too many times on SSMB over time. SSMB is not his personal ad-space, and it doesn’t matter if it’s him or his ‘fans’ (or sock puppets) posting. There’s only so many times you can say “seen it already, don’t want it here” before you have to lay down the law.
And yes, the hypocrisy in attacking an admin’s so-called abuse of power and then uber-moderating the comments for absolutely minor reasons hasn’t gone unnoticed.
What complete and utter tosh.
@Tristan: This has gotten way out of hand. Dude, I really appreciate you giving me an opportunity to state the recent incidents that occurred with the Sonic project, but even I’m getting overwhelmed with these constant updates about the movie. They really need to stop. For that matter, this particular article holds no purpose but for the sake of being filler on a slow news day. From what I read, it comes off as immature mudslinging that you’d find a Jr high newspaper.
If Sonic Stadium has an issue about the movie, that’s fine, but it doesn’t need to be broadcasted like this. It’s the equivalent of publishing a news article about how “Bobby in Math class says Johnny is a stupidhead.” It’s irrelevant and childish and will only create unwanted tension. It’s a simple message board squabble that should just remain just as that. I’m not sure if this your intent to boost attention to the project, cause I think I’ve received more than I wanted with that in the past 2 weeks. As it currently stands, the project is still on hold so there really shouldn’t be any current news posts about this.
Ya know, I don’t frequent TSS anymore, and I find this site much more informative with Sonic news. But I do respect the people who run it, and this was an unnecessary story, told in a biased way, bashing someone for trying to stop flame wars on the forum. He was just being a jackass in his wording for humors sake. To just cause more drama at that…there was no reason for this.
And if this kind of crap continues, I’ll just stop coming here altogether. Cut this kinda stuff out, please. I honestly think you should apologize or re-write the article, honestly. But do as you wish.
Careful Richard–they’ll start supporting you after talk like that! ;-D
-T
So, uh… you actually gonna listen to him or no? ‘Cause this story is probably causing him way more grief than SSMB ever did :3
Yes Tristan, because we ALL HATED Richard before this incident occured. *rolleyes*
Yeah, Flyboy, I’m REALLY gonna fall into that trap by giving that a response.
Story stands. Nothing in the story is a factual error. Kvetch all you want…not gonna happen. Don’t like it, go on the SSMB and complain. Oh wait…you can’t.
-T
@Tristan – lol, don’t worry about that happening, Kuta already has the peak amount of support he is ever going to get for this project.
@ Tristan – I think Faux News called. They want their daily dose of smug back.
Nothing is factual error? No, but you’re painting someone in a bad light for no reason, and the only thing your accomplishing is creating drama for no reason, and totally painting yourself in a bad light. And now you show that your stubborn by insisting it stands. But okay then, you do that…
This may be factual, but it’s clearly cherry picked information. Which is just about what ever news company does these days, anyway. So congratulations, looks like you HAVE hit the big time! Do whatever you want in the end, Tristan. It won’t make people’s opinion of you any better.
“respected admin”………… Roaz?……… lol
*facepalm*
I know this is personal opinion, but after (finally) seeing the trailer..
.. seriously? This much drama? Um.. way to go blowing things completely out of proportion as usual, Sonic community.. o_O;
My opinion: http://rubbish.hapisan.com/sonicthemoviehog.jpg
Yes, I know other people will think differently, but seriously. This is too much drama for something so.. not worth it.
I find it ridiculous that all this turmoil is ensuing over a cartoon hedgehog. Lets all let that sink in for a moment.
Remember when this franchise used to be fun? Seems like that was eons ago.
Is it just me, or this whole article, and at times this whole site stupider than Meatwad?
@AKR – Yeah, the franchise used to be and sometimes still is fun, that is until people like you try to use Sonic as career/ego booster.
I still find it hilarious that after that HUGE “GOOD BYE FOREVER SONIC FANBASE” goodbye that you made a few days ago, that you can just casually come back and act like it never happened.
lol I mean seriously, you were even considering changing your name. Then 5 days later, yeah, I’m working on this movie again, and its going to be official.
Have you ever been tested for bipolar disorder?
“Yeah, Flyboy, I’m REALLY gonna fall into that trap by giving that a response.”
Oops, looks like you responded!
“Story stands. Nothing in the story is a factual error. Kvetch all you want…not gonna happen. Don’t like it, go on the SSMB and complain. Oh wait…you can’t.
-T”
So basically, even after the guy himself asks you to take it down because it’s giving him the wrong sort of attention, you won’t because your ego won’t let you. Such a nice guy…
Tony: It’s not necessarily that I’m stubborn (I am, but most readers are aware at this point)…it’s that the Defense Force comes charging literally every single time I write a story that isn’t universally positive. When the root of others’ arguments boils down to “It’s not positive,” it’s as asinine as anything else.
Not everything reported here is going to be a PR win. Unfortunately, at times being fair and being nice can’t be used in the same context. Beyond that, I’m not going to dive into my news philosophy, because it would be like a broken record at this rate.
-T
Just goes to show that TSS needs to revise their staff membership. What next? Will it be illegal to say “Rotor” on there, too? Guess we have the “unspoken word.” If people will just blow up when anyone mentions “Kuta” or “Secret of the Chaos Emeralds”, then we’ve got a very partial forum running. That said, I’ll follow the rules, but I don’t agree with them. Just goes to show that TSS has gotten WAY to big for it’s britches. Maybe that’s why there were those server crashes… you know, before there was a boatload of illegal content on TSS? Well, I’ll continue to support the “good” of TSS, but it’s not a site I’ll search seriously.
Still fun for me, bro. You’re just hanging out in the wrong places.
@Mr/Mrs Bullshit: I’ve been an admin for over 6 years, so yes, I am respected by those who actually know me.
TSSZ News – Fail and Balanced
And no, this isn’t an inflamitory comment. You’ve shown several times throughout recent months that your news “organization” is biased and terrible at reporting on actual news, so instead, you publish rumors, personal information, and slander.
By the way, at least TSSZ News has shown an impartial view in its reports. TSS seems to have a bit of drama taste in it. Not to say TSS’ articles shouldn’t be fun, but the swearing and pointed views I’ve seen don’t lend me much. I’ll still remain friends with the people on there, but I definitely disagree with some of their views.
@ Roarz – Granted I think you’re justified in what you did concerning this Kuta business, but to be really honest, at times you come off like an ass. I know me saying that won’t make a like of difference since you obviously couldn’t give a rats’ ass, but yeah. There are times where I think shit you say could be phrased better without all the cursing or when you saying something (after a topic/issue is just about dead/locked) makes no point other than to beat an already dead horse.
Just calling it like I see it.
@Sonichedgehog360: I’m sorry but TSSZ has NOT been impartial. TSSZ is way too pro-Kuta, where they won’t even let anything bad about him be said. TSS kinda went too far the other way, where they won’t let anything be said.
To me, banning all talk of a subject is still better than only banning negative talk of it. Especially when it’s so biased as Tristan made all these “news articles”.
Slander? TSSZ actually doesn’t make the articles into a self-assumed drama for its readers. That’s not saying that’s the status quo for TSS, but it’s certainly been common for its forum staff who swear when you report swearing, sexual harassment, and such. I sure hope TSS gets a good remodeling in staff soon. Again, I’ll play by the rules, but it’s getting ridiculous…
Hey guys, I just finished making my latest original character.
http://img694.yfrog.com/img694/9027/chillthehedgehog.jpg
He’s called Chill the Hedgehog, please don’t steal him ok?
@ Mysterious guy Y
lol I think he swears his acting skills are impressive enough to come here and act like nothing happened. Then he wonders why people call him a liar and a scammer.
Thing is, most people on SSMB actually know Roarey well enough to know that he has his ‘way’ of saying things. Some people are more rough around the edges than others, and any SSMB member who’s been there long enough to know Roarey knows that he’s been an AMAZING asset. It’s too bad that people who didn’t bother to get to know him and SSMB are mud-slinging. Probably because they’re jealous that someone can act like an ass and still be liked XD
I think that’s what Tristan has his knickers in a twist over. He doesn’t understand why Roarey isn’t almost universally slandered the way he is
Also, being a long-term and respected admin DOES give him some leeway. Most of the forum members totally get that, and love him for it even.
All in all, this article reeks of desperation. “LOOK! SOME OTHER GUY IS A BIGGER ASS THAN I AM! HATE HIM MORE THAN ME! PLEASE!!” XD
@TofB
Yeah really, and thats the sad thing, he still doesn’t get why people are so distrusting and skeptical of him. If you are still reading this Kuta, its because of stuff like that, quitting with a train of drama, then coming back not 5 ~ 6 days later.
Its also not helping whats left of your reputation.
And again, I find it very interesting that certain copyrighted material disappeared from TSS after the server blackouts. It makes me wonder if TSS was hiding from Sega’s legal arm. Trolls, if you want to find someone/someplace interesting enough to attack… NO, just kidding! I’m just sick and tired of the bashing at Kuta for selling DVDs when TSS had a lot more illegal content its FTP.
@ Bullshit: So is this about your friends I banned for reducing a mod to tears (along with saying her opinions didn’t count because she’s a lesbian)? You know that incident you briefly brought up about how someone was banned for going against a mod? Boo hoo XP. I was personally asked by that moderator to help because she didn’t know who she could turn to other than me. You’re calling it the way you want other people to see it, my dear. If you have a serious grievance with me then send me an email or something XP.
Tis always the same with you peeps anyway, you don’t have the slightest clue about anything. This is why the whole charade is hilarious XP.
But I definitely do not agree with the illegal content circulating from either said group/individual.
Any posts to tell people to calm down and be friends are probably going to be ignored, particularly mine, as I have no real influence on the community in any way shape or form, but I’ll give it a go.
There’s a little bit of an asshole in all of us, every single one, don’t try and deny it, and don’t try and show it off either. Is this really newsworthy? Roary put his foot down and banned all talk of a topic that was causing chaos. That’s it. Is this really worth the trouble? Ask yourselves this.
Really, the only reason this is a problem is because the fans were being assholes and flaming in the first place, and if they had restrained themselves and acted civil IN THE FIRST PLACE, HALF OF THE ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY WOULDN’T BE ANYWHERE NEAR AS BAD AS THEY ARE NOW.
Nevermind the fact that Sonic’s not on the high horse he was back in the 90’s, you guys fight amongst yourselves over stupid subjects that mean NOTHING. Half of the news articles I’ve read, and ALL of the news articles regarding this community drama are never spoken about in real life, and I’m pretty certain it’ll stay that way. Why is that? Because it DOESN’T FLIPPING MATTER.
I can’t tell Tristan what to do with his website. He wants to make articles on this, all the power to him. He owns this site. I can’t tell Roary to not put his foot down on something he sees as chaotic. I can’t tell Kuta to stop trying to make a Sonic movie. I can’t tell anyone anything, but I can sure as hell suggest that you all stop acting like blasted children and act civil about the matter. Some of you are doing that. That’s good. Some of you are flaming. That’s NO good.
Let’s just get back to our lives, and bang on SEGA’s doors for Needlemouse info, because I think that’s a more interesting topic than some FORUM POOP.
– Indigo, out.
@Sonichedgehog360: Smooth. First a bullcrap load of conspiracy mumbo jumbo (there was no taking down of material for legal reasons), and then a suggestion of trolling thinly veiled as a joke. You’re just as hostile and immature as Tristin.
“I don’t like you! So I’m going to try to damage your rep and set trolls on you! Bwahahaha I win!” … yeaaaahhhh…
So the trolls are bothering TSS, too, Roarz? I’m willing to share some IPs with you if you want help tracking them all down. If that’s why you blew up, I’ll go along with you…
@Roarz: My above post was to you. ^
@Roarz, don’t forget accusing said mod (ahem) of wanting to have sex with a dog. Yeah, disciplinary action was TOTALLY uncalled for.
The Sega peeps have known about TSS’ FTP containing everything it contains for ages. They don’t care and quite frankly the idea of a large corporation caring about a fansite distributing soundtracks that only ever found limited commercial release (if even that), alongside other fan curios, is baffling.
Oh, well: ife goes on, and so does the corruption in the Sonic community… but I’ll still enjoy playing Sonic 1 and working with musicians in the fan base!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIvxqUCu41Q
^ – Sums up my thoughts of both participants of the long-standing TSS/TSSZ war. There’s some validity sometimes to what the powers-that-be up at the Stadium do, but at the same time Trist, editing comments and threatening people…Meh.
In summary
Both parties were
Mangled and Killed by a Quantum Reconfiguration Missile
Continue current timeline please.
-Cy-Fox
@Sonic360
Oh noes, sonic360 has some IP addresses. We all better stop calling Kuta on his nonsense then.
Is that the reaction you were hoping for? lol
My thoughts exactly Cy-Fox this is just shameful from all angles.
“I got ips” is so 2002.
Well, I’m just tired of all the bitterness coming to/from both ends. Can’t we all just do what we each like about Sonic, and stop the attacks because it doesn’t fit our fancies? My thoughts exactly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_Rfjl6tGW4
@Sonic360: Where’s the fun in that?
@Sonic360
Nope, its long past that, YOU”VE GOT IP address. Shit just got real.
So tell me Mr. Internet tough guy, what exactly are you going to do with these IP addresses? You going to hack some PCs? lulz
I bet the pages on a certain site are looking mighty updated about now. *whistles*
@MYG: Like no… I was going to send them to TSS to be banned. I’m not a hacker, if you’re trying to infer that. I just want the trolling to stop for everyone. If that means I collaborate with TSS, so be it.
@serpx: Okay… you’ve just proven my point.
@Sonic360
I believe in me who believes in myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T0trbF4ai4
By the way, if someone was going to hack into someone else’s computer, you’re going to need a mighty big chunky server array to do that. At least, that’s what I’ve read hackers do in the Microsoft TechNet magazines. If you think I’m going to be spiteful, no. Defensive of the community’s state, yes. I’ll simply pass on the IPs to TSS if things don’t stop.
Do you have Tristan’s IP? :3
… sorry, sorry, I’mm’a duck out now. *Exit, stage left*
@Flyboy: See ya, Snagglepuss!
(no rudeness in this statement, btw)
By the way, I don’t know who actually matches up with the IPs, well ‘cept myself. I would simply pass on the IPs I’ve gotten recently, and leave it up to TSS to put two and two together.
@Sonic360
Yeah, which is why I was mocking you.
(EDIT – Inflammatory -T)
@MYG: Boy, this troll thing has really gotten out of hand. I’d better start compiling my IP address list ASAP. You seriously just lost whatever reputation you had with the foolhardy believers. You’ll gone to far, buster! Oh, by the way, you snail mail SoJ and SoE for those phone numbers yet?
TSSZ, number one in covering Sonic fandom drama that has little to nothing to do with actual Sonic news!
@Sonic360
1. If I may ask, where exactly are you collecting these IPs from?
2. Like I care what anyone who supports Kuta thinks about me.
3. No, I haven’t snail mailed Sega, and I have no intention to. I’ll probably be there on the 1st to watch this thing fail, but I’m not going “help” you by thinking you have another person calling in.
Wow, could this be TSSZ’s most commented article?
Breaking News!
Sometimes I question why I’m a member of the Sonic Fanbase. I’m told time and time again they’re one of the worst video game fan communities out there, but I always disagree. Stuff like this is giving me second thoughts though.
Bolt: It isn’t, but it’s getting pretty close.
So much for the “readers don’t want to know about this” train of thought.
-T
I reiterate–you must be hanging out in the wrong places, because I’m having a jolly good time.
TSSZ is hardly representative of the Sonic fanbase, but the Sonic fanbase is so vast and varied in its various stereotypes and niches that you can solidly label the entire collective with any given term. All of the generalizations people make about the entire collective regarding things that occur on a single, very small-time website don’t really help dispel this notion, but believe me when I say that this is hardly how the entire fanbase acts. Open up your eyes! It makes it easier to see.
The only thing I had a severe problem with throughout this entire ideal is how a friend and a very pleasant individual was getting his name smeared in the mid for the absolute wrong reasons. As far as I’m concerned, Tristan can continue making his articles and the world will keep on spinning. You guys can either keep spattering about going-ons in a community centered around a blue hedgehogs, or you dudes can keep it classy and play a Sonic game or something. My Mega Drive is literally inches away from me, and it’s itching for a go. I think I’ll follow that call.
Anyone else feel like joining me? :3
@Tristan – Its not so much that its an interesting article, but because
- You insulted another sonic community, so they have come to rightly defend themselves, and give their side of the story.
- Richard Kuta is a popular troll target, almost anywhere he goes/post/is interviewed/talked about, trolls will be there.
- Richard Kuta/ his movie aren’t popular in the sonic fanbase, so your also bound have sonic fans who don’t agree with him show up as well.
- Everyone either they admit it or not, loves drama.
These reasons are why this article is probably going to be the most discussed on your site.
*can’t solidly
@Tweaker: I hear ya. I’m taking a break from the drama, and resuming the roll of impersonal-to-troll, official call-in site announcer. Now, for a break…
@Tweaker: So, you are the head of Sonic Retro? That’s cool!!! I love that site, especially the Sonic 2 HD project there!
@ roaz
“I’ve been an admin for over 6 years, so yes, I am respected by those who actually know me.”
Not Surprised pretty much summed up on why I made that previous comment. if someone is cursing left and right for whatever reason most people won’t see them as respectable, especially if it’s a consistent impression of said person.
As for that last post you sent my way, you wouldn’t be so sure in that post if you knew that was far from the truth. I’m actually not friends with those people and no they are not my “peeps”. I never said the people who got banned weren’t at fault. What I did say was the mod was just as guilty as said party involved because they were both going back and forth. But no one can see that now because all those posts were deleted.
“You’re calling it the way you want other people to see it, my dear.”
No not really. I’m not all that concerned with how others see it and it’s not like they can see it now anyways considering those texts no longer exist. I saw the posts before they got deleted and I’m calling it the way I saw it. It’s my opinion and if you agree or not, either one is fine by me.
“If you have a serious grievance with me then send me an email or something XP.”
XD It’s not that serious, not serious at all. I really don’t take anything that happens in the fandom as anything really serious. Years of Kuta’s shenanigans have taught me that. I say whatever is on my mind and move on. I already said what I wanted to say on the matter.
@Sonic360
I’m pretty sure that he doesn’t want you posting/spamming your call in there though……
My Bad, I meant to put @ Roarz on my last post ^^”"
IN OTHER NEWS, INDIGO RUSH PICKS HIS NOSE.
@ Tweaker
Damn, you still have the mega drive. Ugh I’m so jealous of you. And my Gamecube broke so now I don’t have either system to play my favorite Sonic game. Which is Sonic 2 by the way. I wanna play Sonic 2 again ;_;
@Tired: Uh, why don’t you get Sonic Mega Collection for PC? That’s pretty awesome, as it has some cool comics, videos, and stuff. I think you pick up a copy online for $10 now.
Oh, btw, I still have one of the original 1st version genesis. I love plugging in the master system adapter and going really old school. i miss the atari… it died.
@Tired: Ever heard of video game emulation? Google it.
@Tired: Yep… that too. I use Picodrive on my PDA for all my Genesis games. I just mentioned Sonic Mega Collection since there’s some cool extras… well, and that’s just keeping my collection complete.
Yeah, that’s it. I’ve had enough for now. Time for a change of venue.
*Packs bag, heads for TSS after stopping off at YTMND*
STOP FEEDING THE TROLL GUYS.
Face it, Tristan been trolling us for years now.
tristan being a terrible journalist as usual.
I don’t know about you guys but these overreactions about a giant blue rat are hilarious XD
@Mr. Bullshit:
I stopped reading when you said something about profanity being an actual criterion for respectability. This is even more hilarious (passed the fact it’s a load I’d crap) when you notice that your name includes Bullshit in it
& mods are generally pretty terrible on forums; SSMB mods, while not perfect (they’re human), are quite good.
Wow. Criticize another website for moderating on their private property when you do the same exact thing in your comments.
Yes. Me thinks ol’ Tristan here doesn’t play with the full deck – if you catch my drift.
Get your head out of your arse Tristan, the reason this article is so commented on hasn’t got anything to do with the “movie”, it’s because you’re a terrible news reporter and people are jumping on it.
This site’s aspiration is to be tnext THE SUN I’m sure. Stilll, a lot of lolling that I won’t have time to see right now but will comment later.
FILFTH!
Well this site is crappier than “The Sun” and has an owner as biasd and corrupt as the Sun. So, good job!
What’s all this about corruption? Is there money changing hands somewhere? If there is I’d like some =O.
um…. i just think taht TSS is gay…
I personally think that we should go do something else, I’ve had my fun for a day.
I feel another commercial coming on… oh I feel it.
Guten day, Tristan
I just want to see that you are right in doing these articles. We need more great people like you in our community.
Roarz was terse and immature in his actions and this should be shown to the community.
Keep up the good work, Tristan!
So 5 people agree with this article. Where are the other three?
My two-cents:
@Roarz
As a member of SSMB, I completely agree with your actions. Talk about the fan movie led to a lot of contention, and I was getting sick of it. For goodness sakes, it’s a freakin’ FAN FILM. Yes, there was a lot of controversy over it because of Kuta’s… less-than-ideal relationship with the community in the past, but we all needed to chill out. Thanks for that. However, I can see how someone who doesn’t know you could take it the wrong way, but that’s Tristian responsibility for putting it out of context. Still, I appreciate you dude, you are a terrific admin and keep the board from becoming a flame-fest like most Sonic forums…
@Tristian
Hey, don’t get me wrong with this. I am a constant visitor of this site and love being filled in with all of the great Sonic news you write. BUT LEAVE TSS ALONE! LEAVE THEM ALONE! THEY LOVE SONIC, THEY’VE GONE THROUGH SOME ROUGH TIMES *is shot for Chris Crocker reference*. Seriously though, The Sonic Stadium is a fan site, and is no more relivant than the everyday n00bish FreeWebs Sonic sites out there. Yes, TSS is a major contributor, with things like Summer of Sonic and Sonic Relief, but you don’t need to talk about “So and so said such and such” because, you know what? It’s not important. If it affects multiple users outside of the SSMB userbase, like Summer of Sonic, then fine. But if it’s just a normal announcement only effecting a smaller group, then don’t bother. It’s gossip and is rude. As Kuta said, it’s no better than saying “Bobby in Math class says Johnny is a stupidhead.”
@Kuta
I respect you for posting what you did earlier. I’m glad you could stick up to wrong things even when you’re being somewhat insulted. You’ve had your ups and downs with the community, and while you still haven’t fully re-gained my trust yet, I respect you for posting that.
@Dreadknux
Sorry that your site has been flamed yet again. But hey, I hope you get a lot of publicity from this and get lots of money from ad revenue (although, I don’t see any more ads on it since the B-day redesign…).
@BlazingTails
Don’t give Kuta too many respect points, after all he fully endorsed the previous 3 articles. Even Kuta can have rare moments of rational thinking, he saw that this particular article was more damaging to him, than pity gaining, so he spoke up.
did someone say there was great news like ever about sonic nowadays? let alone on this site?
man, what is the world comin’ to…
The sonic community, what else.
Those who are sick of it have never been in a community for another character for this long. The ammounts of drama this fanbase generates is one of the best I’ve ever seen.
Am I a broken record? You people are hanging out in the wrong sects. Open your eyes and realize there are more Sonic the Hedgehog-related forums and collectives on the internet that are not TSSZ or the skewered, emphasized image of conflict that TSSZ portrays to you people. This is why media tabloids are not accurate representations of the real world–they capitalize on overdramatization.
Don’t fall for the trap, people.
@Tweaker – People fail to realize that with any large collection of people individuals are going to create conflicts. Despite it’s size and undeniable drama, the Sonic fan community has accomplished a lot more than many of video game fan communities.
Where is my payment?
A few thoughts.
@Roarz: Quite frankly, this is going to be a hot potato regardless of whether you allow or ban this. To quote WarGAMES “Sometimes the best move is not to play.” You chose to play by banning talk on the fan film and for that, you have none to blame but yourself.
@Tristan: Haters aside, you do tend to get a bad rap for treating the site like a personal soapbox. While it’s impossible NOT to inject opinion into certain topics, a little restraint can do wonders to reputation, in my opinion
@Dreadley: So much for the master plan of ignoring TSSZ, huh? With all due respect, TSSNET as a whole needs to reach a modus vivendi with TSSZ and soon. Mark my words, this rift is going to be even worse for the Sonic community than Sonic 06
@Everyone else: As far as things go, I don’t believe censoring discussion is a viable means of allowing the Sonic community to grow. While I agree trolls and other low forms of Internet life will always crop up where users gather, good common sense needs to prevail when dealing with topics such as these. All-out bans on discussion of certain topics only serve to inflame people rather than create dialogue and keep conversation going between fans.
In short, Tristan and Dreadley: MAKE NICE ALREADY! (apoligies for the shouting)
-Biafra Republic
Pretty much a WTF moment for people that talk about the fan project really.
@ Biafra Republic
I second that to all of what you said. As much as I hate to say it but I have to let my feelings out, the Sonic fanbase is pretty much F*cked up ever since Sonic 06 appeared and it will keep on becoming worse if we argue about topics sonic related. Its been the same b.s. every single time from games to fan made projects. This has to stop now or this fanbase will end up destroyed like Sega in the console business.
@ everyone
All the agruements end in sorrow and pain.
@Biafra: Best move is not to play? That’s no attitude for an admin; maybe someone who has no responsibility. Not blaming anyone anyway, I like the attention :F.
From what I’ve seen on Sonic Stadium, I’m never going to trust that site again with Sonic news or even gossip unless they change their atmosphere around. As the article writer pointed out:
“..that apparently doesn’t apply to the forum’s administrators.”
I know there are rules that dictate major aspects of forum posts to keep a clean and controlled environment for the SSMB community, but you can only stretch admin’s and mods’ rights so far. I had a similar encounter with an admin on SSMB that was very hypocritical. Not only that, but the conversation I had with this undisclosed individual was pretty one-sided and cynical. Finally I said forget it. Not only is it not worth joining a community that smacks the Sonic franchise whenever possible on front page headlines that also proclaims to be a “fansite,” but also because of the negative atmosphere and tone the condescending moderators and admins contribute.
This comment sounds pretty condescending too, so I’ll attempt to lighten it up a little. I don’t believe all Sonic fans are corrupt at all. Certain communities could do a better job in coming across as inviting or more open to others’ views, but once you find a good group of people to talk to in a forum, it’s hard not to enjoy yourself.
What it comes down to is this: I disagree with Roarey being so negligent of Kuta’s work to mouth off and criticize his character on a personal level. He has higher responsibilities as the admin to a “fansite” to just insult someone who is trying so hard to put forth productive effort for the community. He said it himself even!
“Most people who really have a passion go out and make things happen, they don’t whore themselves on every conceivable Sonic site.”
Kuta’s doing both. Not only is he working hard to get that movie out there, but he’s also advertising. Roarey, consult with your community before speaking up. Geez man.
That’s all I’ll say about it.. if you want to comment or critisize or even correct anything I’ve said I’d be honored to have that attention. I just feel like defending myself again by saying I don’t think poorly of the Sonic community or of Roarey as a person, just certain actions of certain individuals drive me up the wall.