Call-In to Support Sonic Fan Film Cancelled
Tristan Oliver | November 20, 2009
No Specifics Given for Pulled Plug
We want to pass along the news that the planned call in to Sega of Japan to voice support on the suspended Sonic fan film has been cancelled.
TSSZ News reported earlier this month that the effort was originally planned for December 5th, but had been pushed up to December 1st. The news was sent in not by organizer Sonicthehedgehog360, but by Richard Kuta, who placed the fan film’s production on indefinite hiatus in October. Still, a check of the original hub for the project confirms the information, as it now redirects to another site. No reason was given for the cancellation.
Also of note with this news is that Kuta’s original hiatus notice, which had been posted on the fan film’s development blog, has since been removed as of this story’s publication.
Filed Under Sonic Fan Flash, Sonic Scene
LOL what else is new. Seriously, who didn’t expect this? Moving on.
Good, now that that is finally (hopefully) done with, let’s get over all this fanfilm stuff please.
The ones who were against Kuta’s efforts either don’t care or want to move on I assume.
I’m moving on, but it’s still a shame that this happened. No, it’s not a shame that the fan film has ceased, but a shame that a “Sonic fan” would stoop so low as to terrorize Kuta and his family FOR this to happen.
I just hope if another fan project is in the works that could bring on official attention(IE: Summer of Sonic events over in Europe), that the well-being of the project itself isn’t overturned by the bad apples of the fans.
I knew that this thing wasn’t going to happen. Maybe all this talk about a fan film will cease. Sega doesn’t want a Sonic film to be made until they are good and ready to make one themselves. And let’s finally put to rest that old Saturday Morning cartoon, please.
Yeah, after all that drama, unnecessary attention and nonsense from the LAST news article, I’d pull the plug too.
Exactly… recently attacks just made the call-in impossible.
Yes, I’m completely done with the Sonic fan film call-in… and I’m not planning any other call-ins, mail-ins, etc.
But even with the troll attacks, who said I couldn’t turn this lemon into lemonade? As I had anyway planned to do after the call-in, I’ve converted the call-in site into a beta “fine arts” repository. Its name? Sonic Subspace. That name may change as literally everything is in “dev stage.” For now, just chill and watch. If you want your art, music, game, fan fiction or just about anything creative displayed, throw me an email here: sonicmoviecall@gmail.com
Once the site reaches “quality” standards, I plan on submitting it for news coverage. Though you may think otherwise, this site is not an “I” project–this is a collaborative effort. I am in need of some artists and graphics designers for assistance in creating the final site, as well as some “experts.” What I mean as in “experts” are people who will review submissions for “quality,” and if they meet the bar, they’ll be featured on the front page. “Experts” can also write articles on the site blog covering new creations, developments, etc.
That doesn’t mean your fan creation won’t be on the site if it doesn’t make the cut. There’s also the idea of a creations directory. This is a raw search area, where fan creations will be categorized by author, subject material, etc.
One last thing! If you didn’t get to see the Hedgehog On-Air live music channel, no worries! It’s continuing on with the birth of Sonic Subspace. In fact, there’s another show this Saturday, so don’t miss it! In addition to live music, the plan is to broadcast fan cartoons, reviews of fan games, and more!
So to repeat, the call-in is permanently canceled, but despite the failure there, I’m going forward to produce something that will be inclusive of all fans. I hope you will enjoy Sonic Subspace!
One note of clarification for this sentence:
“In addition to live music, the plan is to broadcast fan cartoons, reviews of fan games, and more!”
The “addition” will not occur until a bit later in Sonic Subspace’s development. But still tune-in this Saturday!
One other call to Sonic fans: if you are experienced with Joomla and are interested in aiding in the development of this Sonic Subspace, send me an email:
sonicmoviecall@gmail.com
If you are familiar with CSS, that would be of great assistance as well!
What makes people think that repeatedly bothering Sega to ask for something that they CLEARLY said no to before will help? If you annoy them, they’re going to want nothing to do with you.
Well, I’m happy the call-in is canceled. The above response is one of the reasons why, in fact. Plus, there is just too much opposition in the Sonic community to SoTCE, let alone a call-in.
But, I’m going forward with Sonic Subspace as I had planned to do after the call-in. Again, it’s a Sonic fan site that I’m sure everyone can enjoy. At the very least, Subspace should be much more fan-friendly than my Sonic SoTCE call-in project.
If the film is not an official Sega film…then I don’t care about this fan film
Also…
didn’t Sega say in their terms and whatever that they will reject any ideas and so on that was offered to them?
er…obviously…
so yeah…
plus… like someone here said, let that cursed Saturday morning cartoon just die already…. >_>
So instead of some idiot fans getting sued by SEGA for harassment, this is turning into a really lame fansite that nobody will care about?
Bummer. I wanted to see SEGA go crazy and sue people.
@Ice: No one knows if it was a “Sonic fan” or not — either way, there are terrible people out there, and there always will be, in any kind of fanbase at that, so what does it matter?
@serpx, IceHedge: Thanks guys! I wish more of the good fans in the Sonic community were active like you! Anyway, I hope we (my team and I) can provide something enjoyable with Subspace. Either way, it’s refreshing to see some positive posts for once.
I was ambivalent about the call-in to begin with. The concern was Sega, it was the irrationality of the fan base. Even though I managed to control the harassment outside of the internet, it still continues on the internet. I find it really depressing that obsessive fanboys will jump through hoops in order to tarnish someones over a fictional character. Most recently, I discovered an array of fake accounts on various social networks displaying my information and defamatory photographs. I have no idea what these people are trying to accomplish, but one thing is certain. My creditability has been destroyed beyond repair cause certain people can not control themselves. But as they say, destruction is a form of creation and come 2010, I will be launching my new business venture; disclosed to personal company. This whole experience has made me lose trust in 90% of the internet and I prefer to start the new decade off on a clean slate under a new identity. Think of it as a cyber witness protection program. As of late, these haters pry through my life with a fine tooth comb. No matter what I do, or what I post, people will continue to throw slanderous articles around just to humiliate me. Its almost paralyzing my freedom cause my friends and innocent people I communicate with are getting attacked which is downright malicious.
On on the other side of the spectrum, I’m currently working full time as a graphic designer for a magazine company. How I landed that position is nothing short of miracle considering that my name has been dragged through the mud to where even popular internet celebrities are slamming me. Not only that, I attended my 10 year high school reunion ans I was shocked when someone confronted me and asked me if I was on Encyclopedia Dramatica. Guys, this crap really needs to end since it really is affecting my personal life. Sadly, I know thats never going to happen since “trolling” has become a step down for the human race and now forced to live my life in the shadows. This is not how I envisioned my life as a 28 year old. If society can not agree with opinions or show some restraint when expressing them, then I weep for the future. In the meantime, Im wiping my hands clean of this horrible decade and moving on to other endeavors. What will they be? You’ll just have to find out on your own. As for Sonic project, I will be passing the torch onto someone else. Perhaps he/she will have better luck with it than I did. Lastly, RK Dezignz will be shutting down on Dec 1 so I can concentrate on my new business. My only regret throughout this 4 year plight is ever announcing my ambitions to the public. Im still a Sonic fan and have the intention to participate in discussions, but I prefer to keep that low key from now on. I hope one day these immature brats grow up and reflect upon the destruction they caused and how they effectively ruined someones life. Anyway, that’s basically what my agenda holds for the new decade.
edit: The concern WASN’T Sega is what I meant to say.
@Sonic360 – Good luck with your new website, just don’t involve Kuta in it too much, or else all you will attract is trolls and drama.
@AKR
Ah Kuta, still not taking any personal responsibility to the last eh? Oh well, at the very least I hope you’re serious this time about giving that project to someone else.
Is the person you are supposedly giving the project to going to try to make the movie official? Or does he/she (unlike you) live in reality, and will just try to complete it as a fan movie?
Also, your life was ruined? You seem pretty upbeat for someone whose life was destroyed.
@AKR
Nobody cares. In the slightest.
@Sonic360: I’m a loyal Sonic fan, I do what I can, and I speak up my thoughts, but I wouldn’t call me “good” in the moral sense. I’m quite an asshole.
@Mysterious Guy Y: Im excited about my new identity and business cause its giving me the opportunity to start fresh so I can work in peace and build my own community of artists and designers. Unfortunately, Im not revealing any of this info to people I dont personally know. I may have undergone emotional hardship, but Im moving on with my life and pretend the last 10 years didnt exist. Which I prefer to do anyway since this decade isn’t worth remembering.
@AKR
I hope your new “community” doesn’t include Mike. Seriously, that guy is more harmful to your career than trolls. (Especially given his recent asinine actions, which I’m sure he thought were “helping” you)
Btw, I wouldn’t be so overconfident that trolls won’t find your new online identity. Because I’m pretty sure that despite you “giving up” the sonic fan movie, you will still constantly reference it with your new internet persona.
@MGY: No, it will not include Mike since hes working on his own site.
@AKR
So if he wasn’t working on another site, he would be included? If you knew how easy it is to get info about you from Mike, your head would explode. Just remember this after his site fails (which it always does) and he begs to be included in your “community.”
@MGY: No, cause my site is strictly a company that pertains to graphic design. Skills that he unfortunately lacks. I am however collaborating with someone to help run the site so I can focus on my clients.
@AKR
Lets be honest Kuta, everyone knows that Mike has no skills outside of being a tool. He can’t even make decent Lets Play’s. (Something that takes very little talent in the first place)
But I digress, if you have really moved on from trying to revive kid shows from the 80s and 90s, then good luck to you.
@MGY: Well thats actually the whole premise of Mike’s new site. Hes starting a new business where hes posting new Lets Play videos under a new alias. Its somewhat questionable after I saw his latest video, but hey, if thats his dream than I wish him the best with it.
Oh joy. Another soapbox article that Kuta can use to try and amass some pity.
I’d say good luck and all that positive jazz, but since you’ve done the ‘BAWW, leaving fandom. back in 5 min’ speech more times than I care to count, I’m just going to wait and see.
Also, good riddance to that call in. It was riddled with nothing but issues from day one (including originally being set to call in on a day SEGA would be closed). It wouldn’t have amounted to much other than annoyance/harassment anyhow.
@serpx: Well, the intention of my post was to comment about future undisclosed fan projects that could escalate to a level of requesting official attention. If a fan project were to reach such a height, I wouldn’t want this whole ordeal to happen again. IE: I wouldn’t want someone, Sonic fan or not, to harass the creator(s) to the point of closing the project down, whatever it may be.
But you do have a point, the person to blame for these attempts may not have been a fan at all, so I switched my wording around a few sentences prior.
@Sonic360: Thanks for the recognition! It’s one thing to be nice, but it’s another thing to be productive too, and you’ve got both traits my friend. Good luck with Sonic Subspace. =D
@IceHedge: Its pretty much set in stone that the next person who presents a fan film/ official movie/TV show is going to get attacked. It happened to Matt Sullivan, it happened to me, and it will continue to happen to anyone else. This is the Sonic fanbase were talking about. The community that’s just as hostile as Twilight =P
@IceHedge: Thanks! I really hope the efforts of my friends and I will produce something of quality. Right now, I’d rate Subspace at a 1 out of 10. It’s very generic and lacks content. The one redeeming aspect is the Hedgehog On-Air channel, and that on its own can go many directions as well. Otherwise, I’d give the beta a zero
. The final site won’t be on Wikispaces (thankfully), but will be web hosted. Unless I can find a talented PHP coder, I’ll have to go with Joomla for the final release of version one of Subspace.
The final goal? A site that will provide fans with the “pro” feel of TSS with an emphasis on fan creations.
Yeah, that’s a “very” extreme goal, especially when it took TSS 8 years to achieve their current status. At any rate, I hope for Subspace to at least achieve an above-average quality before I leave for a two year commitment in my personal life. Right now, I just need more people. Three people, though each very talented, isn’t enough to bolster the site, let alone keep it going. I’ll need a good 10 people for the final release, and optimally 20-30, including moderators for the forums, for the site to run at its best.
@ Kuta – Do I have to also point out that a lot of this could have been avoided if you had kept your plans incognito? It should be common sense that announcing plans like “I’m makin’ a fan movie but I’m trying to make it official for REALZ” was going to cause some drama from the get go. You had to learn it the hard way, and in a way while you seem to have learned from it you still don’t acknowledge that it was the very fact that you blabbed to any forum/ anyone that would lend you an ear to this nonsense.
And no, the next person who does a fan film/project won’t get attacked if they spend more time working on their project instead of promoting it before they made any progress in the groundwork needed to complete it. There’s a big, big difference between promoting something while near completion or, as you’ve done, supposedly still shopping around to get it into production. While you had character sheets and storyboards it still doesn’t help that not much was animated for the actual movie beyond that trailer.
Kuta does this mean I will get to finish your fan film? I have said this before but I think this should be made a reality, no trolls will stop me from doing so if the toarch passes to me!!
@ Kitty Nakajima – I couldn’t have said it better myself, however I doubt Kuta will ever acknowledge it.
@ AKR – When you “close” down your official site, are you also going to close your other social networking sites? After all, those are just loose strings that lead back to you. (At least under your current screen names ThunderPeel, AKR, and Sonmanic)
@ Megadrivesonic – Unless you repeat Kuta’s mistakes, trolls won’t even notice you.
I already began the process of removing my site http://www.rkdezignz.com/ since my one is already published.
As for the social networks, I’m keeping twitter and facebook. It just wouldn’t be fair to my friends to just simply vanish. My new site will give me the creative outlet of writing articles/reviews, producing videos, and churning out artwork under a new alias.
I already began the process of removing my site http://www.rkdezignz.com/ since my new one is already published.
As for the social networks, I’m keeping twitter and facebook. It just wouldn’t be fair to my friends to just simply vanish. My new site will give me the creative outlet of writing articles/reviews, producing videos, and churning out artwork under a new alias.
So does that mean you will be deleting your current youtube account?
No, but the account will remain idle as a holding place for the videos.
Why? You won’t be able to claim or link to that account in your new community without giving away your new identity.