“You Are Very Obviously Doing it Wrong”
It’s rare to see a developer–or anyone linked to a developer–respond on this level to a review that’s less than kind. Even more unusual is how the response toes the lines between humor, sarcasm, and disappointment.
First, let’s set the stage: While most mainstream outlets–even those who have shown a bias against recent Sonic fare–have generally scored Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing favorably, only a handful have not, and chief among those is Eurogamer, one of the most well respected online publications in Europe.
The organization awarded ASR with a 6 out of 10, which isn’t so bad, all things considered. But it’s how the score came to be by Dan Whitehead–in directly comparing the game Mario Kart amid some stinging remarks–that may have triggered such a strong response:
Everything else is much as you’d expect. Mario’s green shell projectiles are replaced with green boxing gloves, the red shells with red missiles. Traffic cones are dropped instead of banana skins, and the lightning bolt power-up is swapped for character-specific special attacks, granted to players lingering at the rear of the pack. Rev your engine at the right point and you get a starting line boost. Hit the speed pads on the track for another forwards shove. It’s all warmly familiar, yet uninspiring.
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What’s left is merely a pretty good karting game with a few nice flourishes, a couple of clunky design decisions and a whole garage full of Mario’s leftovers.
The strong response to the article came from Sumo’s Steve Lycett, who not only offered a point by point counterattack on what makes this game great, but reviewed the review:
Seems we’ve managed to make a marmite game!
If you can’t get around the Monkey Ball tracks – you are very obviously doing it wrong. You wouldn’t believe the time we spent honing those to work nicely!
No mention of 4 player support in splitscreen either? I can pretty much count on one hand the amount of games that allow this on PS3/360. On the extra game modes in Split-screen outside of straight races.
No mention of the character specific special moves, that we introduced as an alternative hate inducing Blue shell, yet still allow less able players to compete.
Or indeed mention that whilst yes, we do have a straight firing projectile and a homing projectile, there are also some very new ones for this genre, or that the weapon system actually does have a proper paper scissor stone. Gonna get missiled, pop a shild, blind fire back, use the horn area effect. Got a triple item, hold the button for alt fire modes, or push back on the stick to fire some backwards too.
No mention that once you’ve mastered the drift and trick system, you can attempt to combo these into a lovely long chain and find a super satisfying race system that especially rewarded when competing for Time Trial times.
Or the fact you can use the SEGA miles to ignore single player completely and unlock all the extra content in Multiplayer – one of the big issues that pretty much every party game going has had.
Come on guys, we’ve really put the effort into making this, and we get a one page review that doesn’t even cover the game features, you know the things your readers care about, or you know, spent a little effort seeing how this has a very different feel from Mario Kart.
My review of Eurogamers review – 6/10 could try harder (sorry Dan!)
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So, you’ve seen both sides of the argument, and you’ve likely played ASR in one form or another by now. Who’s made the better case–S0L or Eurogamer? Tell us below. And remember, we’ll be reviewing three editions of ASR in the days to come–the XBOX360, Wii, and DS editions.













FIRST COMMENT WOOHOO =DD
now to actually read the article T.T
What’s Eurogamer?
ROFL, BEST COMEBACK REVIEW EVER =D
omg did i mention i love this game, SHADOW FOR THE WIN
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now can they make a new Space Channel 5 and Jet Set Radio please >.>
@Mike
the magazine that reviewed the game
-facepalm-
This is like the dweebs who whine and cry about the guys who point out the blatant flaws in their Shadow recolour of a fan character.
I mean, I like SEGA Racing (the demo at least), but just because you’ve “worked so hard on this” doesn’t mean it’s the best thing ever and everyone’s going to love it. Look at Sonic 4 Episode 1. RubyEclipse did a song and dance about all the “hard work” and “dedication” that was put into that shit and how people should respect that, when the game’s just a shitty rehash of Sonic’s 1 and 2 with Rush physics and the Unleashed model.
A crappy novel which took years to write is still a crappy novel. *cough*Twilight*cough* Not everyone’s going to love your shit. Deal.
I find it funny that S0L did that! XD But he’s right actually. Even if ther’s weird that he wrote that instead of a angry fan for exampel. Anyway, let’s just say that it wasn’t S0L who wrote that and it was a angry fan.
Then think again and you might think as I do. I think he’s right about that and the review was awful, a stupid NIntendo fan boy that can’t accept that there exsist kart games that are waaay better than Mario Kart.
@ Kits’Okami:
How, exactly, are you so certain that Sonic 4: Episode 1 will be, in your words; “just a shitty rehash of Sonic’s 1 and 2 with Rush physics and the Unleashed model”? Have you played the game yourself? If not, don’t you think it’s a tad silly to jump to such a conclusion so early?
Great move Steve!! It’s in fact really ridicolous to get only 1 site review for this game and the 6/10 is a joke.
S0L review review = Win.
Now do IGN and Gamespot’s Sonic Unleashed 360/PS3 review! XD
Well…. It doesn’t matter what people of Sumo said.
The fact is that ALL this kind of games are copies from Mario Kart.
Not only Sega All Stars, but Crash Racing, Disney Racing, Dk Racing, Bomberman Racing and ect…
They’re a little different from each other, true. But in essence they are all the same bullshit.
Great come back from Steve. Showing how the Eurogamer review was not only biased but also half-arsed. If you’re going to review a game please leave behind you loyalty for the big N and just do your job with honesty and integrity. No need to please fans or haters, just do the right thing.
Also i finally got the game and I’m just loving it right now, best mascot racer in this console generation. Congratulations to the guys at Sumo Digital for a job well done. just loved every single little detail in the game, like how Jacky and Akira do push-ups on the Ferrari while driving it at the same time, that alone made me laugh to the point i lost the race.
If anything this game sets the bar higher for the mascot racing genre (I’m not calling SASASR a kart racer since this actually is a real racer, flowing with sega DNA in it)
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@cazetta :
To be honest when Mario Kart saw SASASR in the rear view mirror, by the time the plumber turned his fat head to look back, SASASR was already way ahead.
Eurogamer got pwned
I actually hadn’t given any real thought to the fact that the SEGA Miles system lets you unlock everything without playing single-player mode. Now that it’s come to my attention, I think it’s GREAT! Not because I wouldn’t play single-player (I have been), but because I know some people don’t. I have some friends who’ve logged over 100 hours on Mario Kart Wii and STILL haven’t unlocked a full HALF of the tracks just because they haven’t played single-player! That’s just plain absurd.
Overall, I say SOL is right in his rebuttal of this crappy review.
@cazetta
Omg i’m gonna say this once and HOPE that everyone who needs to read this does
First off, the genre isn’t called “Kart Racer” it’s called a “Character Racer”, anyone who calls it a kart racer is probably bias to Mario Kart automatically
Second, i can GUARANTEE that Mario Kart wasn’t the first CHARCTER RACER, so saying that all games of this genre copies Mario Kart is quite ridiculous.
now, mario kart might have been the first to invent power ups in the racing, but i can’t be certain o.O
S0L is right. And he’s damn funny.
I think SOL is right here, it even said it’s not really about the score although dissapointing, but the lack of anything in the review that was the issue, and reading it, that Dan guy may as well have just put “S&SAR sucks balls” saving bandwidth.
I mean, it must suck getting a genre you don’t like to review. Saying that, looking at his history of scores I don’t think he likes gaming at all. But to have a single page review containing nothing but vague ramblings, Dan – 5/5 douche rating for me.
@ cazetta
Cause, you know, Mario was the first to go kart racing right?
Haha! I like Steve! He’s awesome!
And so looks the game to bee! Awesome game.
This is surprising! Whereas 6/10 isn’t a bad score, S0L is so awesome that I can’t help but cheer him on.
SOur Lemon.
Though this ‘Mario did it first’ is starting to rub me the wrong way. Do we compare every FPS out there to Modern Warfare
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I think SEGA should hire Steve Lycett (SoL) he’s the man!
Steve Lycett rules
That was the same thing that SONIC TEAM should have done to Unleashed… oh well…
I give to this have a 20 out of 10
I’m waiting on an image of Steve Lycett with a thumbs down, proclaiming “UR DOIN IT RONG”.
Eurogamer is a poor quality review site, any way. All of there reviews are either generic lies about hyped-up games or just tiny, uninformative garbage like this one.
I think S0L has a point.
U-U-U-ULTRA COMBO FINISH
Aw, c`mon, ASR rocks! S0L rocks too.
Well, I know that I should be saying something like “Steve is being a whiner” or “saying that the review is stupid is just being a sore loser”, but…
I honestly think that I’d do the same thing. So I can’t say much.
What I CAN say, however, is that whoever was saying something about Sonic 4 being crap needs to shut up right now. It’s fair for people to say they don’t like a game after they play it; it’s not fair for someone to say that they hate a game even before it’s been released.
YES!!!! was what i said when i read this….hahaha. now they’er feelin like some SALTY BISCUTS!!!
haha.
but really… this line off of wikipedia pissed me off a lil: “Kart racers, popularized by (and often credited to) the Mario Kart series”…>.>’…haha REALLY. like EVERY person who has made a cartoonish racing game WANTED TO MAKE IT EXACTLY like mario kart…except with a “twist”. *roll of eyes*
S&SASR is the best
mariokart doesn’t have a change compare to this…
Until now I’ve played only with Sonic, Tails, Amy and Shadow, lool I’m very nterested in playing with Billy Hatcher and mostly with Alex Kidd
(is awsome) but his the last character that I will unlock his the most expensive too
oh well…
SONIC & SEGA ALL-STARS RACING is the gold medalist
oohhh oohhhh now do a sonic unleashed review review on the ign review (that review is made up on so much fail that i use it as a source of laughter)
At first, I thought that this game was just Mario Kart with the Sonic brand slapped on to the box, but I realize that I’m wrong. ASR looks like an awesome game with features that Mario Kart hasn’t even thought of yet (SEGA Miles). And besides, Mario Kart wasn’t the first racing title ever, so why do we compare every kart game to his? Mario isn’t freaking Formula 1 or the m*****f***ing Nascar or Daytona or any of that crap. ASR FTW. END OF STORY.
Wow, the guy who reviewed this game must’ve only watched some kids play the game for a half hour or so. He missed alot!
After playing the full game, it’s quite refreshing to have a GOOD kart racer. Mario Kart Wii disappointed me with constantly getting screwed over by items, so I thought I wasn’t gonna get a good kart racer this generation. But luckily, I was wrong. ASR is a damn good kart racer, and it’s quite obvious they put alot of thought effort into it, especially considering the development team’s limited funds and having to make several versions. The Sega Miles system is something alot of games should use more often. The game gives you credit where it’s due and lets you unlock stuff the way you want to do it rather than force you to do specific tasks to gain access to all the extras.
Again, give the guys who worked on this game a fucking medal, cuz they earned it.
ive played it a little, and only just getting the hang of the drifting etc. ive also played the oh so dreaded mario kart and I can clearly say that in my own mind, racing the sonic way wins hands down. i found mario kart really bland (im playing both on wii by the way..) and with a much better AI challenge, its a fun racer. the characters look quite creepy when they jump out of their cars at the end (due to the low graphics) but im sure playing the PS3 and XBOX versions would clear that one up…. just a shame i dont have one…..yet.
Eurogamer clearly don’t know what they’re talking about. It’s like comparing Unleashed, nay, Sonic 2 to SONIC ’06. This Dan guy? No way. Wrong. I guess he just sucks at the game, and doesn’t like it because of that.
S0L, keep it up! I’m looking forward to the DLC you promised for it!
TOO much Drama!