No More Mine Cart, At Least for Consoles
Here’s a real Sonic 4 exclusive: We’ve confirmed some of the game’s most controversial material will be removed in the final console release, and exist only in its mobile edition.
According to an independent source speaking to TSSZ News on condition of anonymity, much of the so-called “gimmicks” placed in Act 2 levels, including the much maligned Mine Cart setup from Lost Labyrinth Act 2 and the Casino Street score attack, will shift to the release on the Apple iPhone and iPod Touch–the most significant result of both video leaks from the game and subsequent fan backlash. In all likelihood, those two specific acts will be the “exclusive” levels mentioned last week by Aaron Webber and Ken Balough in their GameSpot interview.
Our source tells TSSZ News that the gimmick acts were built mostly to show off the capabilities of motion control–something only Wii and PS3 players can take advantage of. After the XBOX360 edition of Sonic 4 leaked using a workaround to those controls and reaction turned sour, the internal decision to revise was made, according to our tipster. Even though two of three major consoles presently support motion control, our source very specifically stated the gimmicks are now only for the mobile edition, where Apple’s built-in accelerometer can be utilized.
Our source reaffirmed previous official commitments made to tweaking Sonic 4‘s physics and refining level design. Those design changes should extend beyond the obvious open slots the gimmick acts have left behind, and we’ve been told some existing changes may be extended in size and scope. But our source is pessimistic that Sonic’s physics will be made just right, citing an internal lack of classic Sonic comprehension.
Uncertain for the moment is the fate of the Special Stage format. That too briefly leaked through video and showed off the XBOX360 workaround. A handful of official previews have also mentioned the Special Stage setup with the intent of motion control. We will bring you up to speed on that component when we learn new information.
For now, these are the new details we have learned. E3 is in a few weeks, and Sonic 4 will be playable, but whether these details are reflected on the show floor depends on what build Sega brings to the expo. As previously stated, those details are to be determined, and we will keep you informed every step of the way.













Huzzah!
So, in the case that the source is legit, the leaks did indeed help Sonic 4.
Good.
I look forward to hearing press reaction to the Demo.
It will undoubtedly be good.
Now all we need is this game to be playable a Summer of Sonic so /we/ can see how it plays.
Well, they are listening.
1.) We all knew this
2.) Who is your source
I agree with edge.
Pretty weak “exclusive”.
My source is the source of all sources in a source that has limitless sources.
My guess for sonic 4 date release is either 10/10/10 or 10/01/10 and I think 10/10/10 is the best release date for it.
For the past 5 years they’ve been releasing their games in mid November.
@ Mike
The only Sonic games released in November in the past five years were Shadow, Rush, 06, and Unleashed, there were a lot more Sonic games not released mid-November
Before I jump up and down in ecstacy, I wanna know exactly who is providing this information. Stone me, but this just sounds too good to be true…
So who is this source. How do we know they’re legit and how do we know they aren’t just someone fucking with you?
Make I make a suggestion, Tristan, if you really have any intent to read this.
If you are supposed to be a REAL kind of news reporter, and are trying to make “exclusive news articles” around here, you don’t refrain from revealing your source on where you got the news from for no reason. It does not matter if they tell you to not reveal who they are (the people you got the news from), or if you feel the news may not be precieved by others as a reliable source. You still have to say where the source came from, because that is very important to do in a news article, and it helps make your news more credible. It doesn’t matter what reason you have for not revealing the sources, for it is still important that the source are revealed. One of the things that may happen if you don’t is that some people would think you are making this up, and as I know from your history, I would not be surprised if people think this is the case. Since this is an exclusive as you say it is, you really should reveal your sources, for not doing so is not a good thing to do for an “exclusive article”.
So, whatever reason you have for not revealing your sources, you still have one of three options, reveal the source, treat this news as a rumor rather than an exclusive, or DON’T POST THE NEWS AT ALL IF YOU DON’T WISH TO REVEAL THE SOUCE OF THE NEWS, for it is very important for an “exclusive” article.
Wow… If this is true, it’s possibly the most amazing news I’ve ever heard. A game company making a HUGE change based on consumer feedback. I’m officially no longer sour about the delay.
@edge We all didn’t know this. I was fully expecting the minecart to remain in the final game.
@ TailsFox88
When they say they are making changes based on customer feedback, and say that the iMachine version is getting 2 exclusive levels, it only makes sense. It’s like putting 1 and 1 together.
Good now that they got rid of something the whiners complained about this game may have a chance.
@Kits’Okami Yeah I’m with you i’ll believe it when I see some proof.
@Sonication – Ever heard of Deepthroat?
@RS: Yes but still. My point stands.
Plus, as I heard, in the past, Tristan has posted news without showing the souces, and they have been wrong then.
Plus, you don’t even know if this is really a Deepthroat situation or not. So please, let’s not bring that up.
@RS: Sick!!!1!!
I have it on very good authority that both of these so called ‘exclusive’ ‘leaks’ are completely fabricated…Any similarities with the final game is simply good guess work. Lets face it everything that has been ‘revealed’ is already pretty obvious.
How do I know?
Well lets just say when you don’t make shit up to try and gain some cheap hits you end up having a very good working relationship with Sega and that’s what we have at Segabits… We can ask questions like that and get straight answers.
As for this ‘leak’ well yeah it’s probably true but Sega announced that the ipad would get 2 exclusive levels already… It doesn’t take a genius to put 2 and 2 together.
yeaaaa, no casino act 2.
@ Sharky
Exactly.
Tristan i have a question for you. A respectable question about your source.
Did you contact SEGA PR to get your information? Was it someone who works for the American, European, or Japanese divisions of SEGA? Are these just rumors or truly reveals before E3 this year? Did you know about Sonic Colors in advance before the announcement? Are you sure that you are not jeopardizing the release of news from SEGA PR? If you could answer these questions I would surely appreciate it.
@ Sharky
Amazing name as well. Sharky is clearly the best character on Rock Band 2.
A horrible game, by a horrible company. Hope this kills Sega for good.
As Sonication said, and in line with “Pics or it didn’t happen,”
Give sources or it didn’t happen.
So this is what happens when a journalist doesn’t play ball with the rest of you. My heart goes out to ya Tristan. You get more witch hunts than Salem.
SEGA should take in input morw often. It’s doing wonders
So far it’s working out quite nicely. I wonder what will replace the two gimmick levels. That’s what most excites me is the prospect of getting two more acts.
Taking out levels from two consoles just because one other console doesn’t have motion controls? Seems a bit unfair to me. If they are in fact replaced with more regular levels, though, I suppose it’s all right.
All these complaints about sources (especially the one saying it doesn’t matter if the source insists on being anonymous) are kinda ridiculous. If you don’t want to believe it, then don’t. If you want to snarkily believe that this is obvious guess work, then fine. But the complaints are only dragging the discussion down.
That’s cool, though a part of me was looking forward to them, guess I’ll buy the fame twice. Once on 360, and another on iPod.
Game, stupid iPod touch screen
Please don’t be BSing us, because if so then that would be very VERY low of you.
If you’re telling the truth, then I have to wonder why you didn’t tell us about your “source”.
I already showed this news days ago on the sfghq . Got tge news from pu.nl
im so happy about this news
@Sonication – Look, I’m probably the biggest skeptic when it comes to shit like this, but my point was that major media outlets have mentioned news without revealing the source. For good reason. Don’t want to believe it until a source is revealed? That’s fine, but don’t tell the guy how to run his site.
Seriously, I gotta love all of the snide comments about “EXCLUSIVE” and “SOURCE.” I can imagine Tristan’s grin right now; “Problem, Sonic community?” For people who criticize TSSZ for taking things too seriously (and in many cases, it’s absolutely true), you guys sure take TSSZ too seriously.
To me the mine cart echoed Sonic 2 Game Gear’s Underground Zone. But it would be kinds lame to fall back on that.
Next up: DLC! Play as Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Amy and more! All for 150 points each!
Nah, they wouldn’t….would they?
@RS: I am afraid you have misunderstood my motives. I wasn’t telling him how to run his site. I was just giving him a tip, that’s all.
@RS: Plus, Tristan has had a history of not revealing his sources in the past, and at the same time, many times they were proven to be wrong. Plus, you don’t really know the real reason why Tristan is not revealing his sources, and it may not be what you think. So why defend Tristan when you don’t even really know why he does not reveal his sources to begin with?
Plus, I think you should brush up on your history on TSSZ. I think there is a lot you don’t know about the history of the site that you need to know.
PS: I doubt this is really some kind of Deepthroat situation here.
I really hope they remove motion controls levels in Sonic 4. I serisly don’t want that. I’m so tired of motion now…..
Lol, true RS. He breaks the mold while simultaneously trolling them; Especially the asspained “journalist” that pandered to Sega and didn’t get as many hits as TSSZ for it.
@ Sonication
Like this one… http://www.sonicstadium.org/community/community-cyberbullying-tssz-mocks-fake-disease
Speaking of which, did you ever apologize Tristan?
@Edge: As far as I know, he’s never apologized for that comment. God knows why.
No offense Tristan, but isn’t it kinda funny how there’s this big “24 HOUR NEWS” thing on this site, but it hasn’t updated in almost 3 days?
I don´t care if Special Stage´s gimmicks are in, Special Stages have always been a gimmick by themselves, sometimes better and sometimes worse. The only real problem with the gimmicks were that they were entire acts.
Now let´s see if we get a physics+gameplay+level design fixed new