Not the Best Remark with Sonic 4 on Deck
This is generally not recommended speech when you have a purported retro revival on the horizon. On the record with European based GamerZines, Sonic Team head and Sonic Colors producer states, flat out, his belief that the 3D Sonic title exclusive to Wii will surpass the quality of 2D Sonic games that came before it.
According to the website, this is what he said in part about the game, with more to come, in a future edition of PlayZine:
In Sonic Colors, the team looked back at previous Sonic games and looked at the pros and cons of each title, and they hope they have addressed all the goods and bads in Sonic Colors.
We believe that this Sonic game is as good as or even better than the 2D Sonic games.
Iizuka doesn’t say which Sonic games he refers to specifically in the last sentence or if it’s even a generalized statement to cover both classic and contemporary works, but he also affirmed in the interview Colors will be the best 3D Sonic to date.
The latter appears more certain. But a direct comparison to any classic or current 2D Sonic, let alone a promise of a better product, may cross a line for some Sonic fans. It certainly isn’t a vote of confidence in the upcoming Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode I, already suffering from a near disastrous PR campaign. And if Sonic Team did look back at past 2D Sonic titles to correct previous mistakes, why weren’t those corrections reflected in Sonic 4?
There are a lot of questions to ask from this strange statement. How do Iizuka’s words make you feel? Tell us in the comments. Thanks to Silverwind for sending this tip in. If you have news to share, be sure to share it with us by clicking News Tips at the top of every page.
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I’m not sure but that’s too much isn’t it.
I don’t see what’s so offensive about his comment :\
Just as planned.
Both Sonic Colors AND Sonic 4 are going to be fantastic. Why would anyone complain about the latter when it is the game that classic Sonic fans have wanted SEGA to make for years? I know I shouldn’t talk about the same subject all the time but I had to get my views across, hoping that I would put an end to all of this whining and moaning of the Sonic fandom and turning it into a better, more civilized and peaceful community full of rainbows and happy faces.
@Vulpine:”I know I shouldn’t talk about the same subject all the time but I had to get my views across, hoping that I would put an end to all of this whining and moaning of the Sonic fandom and turning it into a better, more civilized and peaceful community full of rainbows and happy faces.”
… Are you serious?
Oh, and here are my thoughts on this recent news:
Better than every other 3D Sonic title? Sure, I’ll buy that; even Sonic Unleashed, awesome as it is, had its messups.
Better than the modern 2D Sonics? Same; even Sonic Pocket Adventure, as awesome as it is, had its little mistakes here and there.
Better than the classic 2D Sonics? Well… I’ll need to see a bit more of the game (and actually play it) before I’ll completely buy that, sir. Not leaving that particular possibility completely out of the question, though.
Of course, that’s just me speaking for my opinion on this…
Still doesn’t change my position. I’m getting Sonic 4 and Colors but not Free Riders.
Iizuka is hopelessly in love with Sonic games featuring homing attacks and dashpads: confirmed. :V
But really, this was an incredibly silly comment. I can see it being better than every other 3d title (yes, even SA1); and even better than every 2d modern title (Advance 1 and SPA may say otherwise though); but really I’m sorry Iizuka but your claims are impossible; at least to me.
Sega reps just need to stop talking until the games are released. That is all.
You know all these years I’ve been wondering whether or not Sonic Team ever took the time to evaluate the pro and cons of their previous games that we have been complaining about. Or to try replaying them.
@Azukara
Well Iizuka was the director of the first game to introduce the homing attack after all so that might contribute.
Wow Iizuka, what the fuck are you drinking?
Not agreed, i think there is more great stuff to come
That comment is just depressing. Keep thinking like that and Sonic will never be again an AAA title.
They said this about Unleashed as well and that turned out to be crap.
Though I cannot deny that Colours does look great. Maybe it will turn out to be as awesome as Iizuka says…
oh dear please dont start a flame war when the game gets good, no it looks great so dont do it
Bad idea say that.
the 3d still have more glitches and difficulties to become a great game.
Colors is in good road, better than unleashed, but, stills have rails, umpresisely control, sonic speakeing, no robotnik in egg machines, besides that only put a strange giant turd like bosses inda stages, and dont computers, and the worst of all, still dedicated to booger eaters.
So, you cant say better than 2d game.
i agree whit Iizuka
He’s only saying that Colors will correct the mistakes that they had made in the pass, that’s what he’s trying to say there dude’s…
But yhe maybe I agree with him, Unleashed was SUPER but I think Colors will be even bettter
I must say that I enjoy 3D games more than 2D games, and I think this will be the best 3D sonic so far, however he shouldnt be talking like that. One thing is to have faith on your project but that is going a bit too far
One thing is for sure…it wont be as popular as the 2D classic games.
Lmao I don’t understand. What is it about colors that everyone is so excited about? It looks like a cheap ass version of Unleashed. I saw NOTHING attractive about it! wtf is going on!
I find this hilarious. They spent so much time advertising and hyping up ‘Project Needle Mouse’ for months. Now here comes a new title out of the blue and Iizuka says its going to do better… Way to build up the hype guys!
It’s funny how you mention Sonic 4 since review sites are more in favor of Colors than 4.(Even Destructoid;s Jim Sterling seems to think so)
I think what he said was a little silly and overly hopeful, but I didn’t find it that bad. Yeah, it entails quite a bit about Sonic 4, but I think this might be another ‘misunderstanding’; like how we all apparrantly misunderstood his comments about speed/momentum in sonic 4, and that boosters and springs are in actuality very important to sonic 4. He needs to be more specific with his statements–he could just mean the advances and rushes. But we don’t know that, ’cause he wasn’t very clear.
Please Naka,Back!!!
Sonic 4 – Yes,the new adventure with win graphics,music etc
Iizuka say: Mmmm, now, put dashpads
And now THIS
Please Iizuka,stop drink or smoke in work D:
Takashi Iizuka’s 2-Step Plan to Handling the Press:
1) Open mouth.
2) Insert foot.
I just don’t understand. Does Iizuka just love being pushed forward with little free movement? And why is he obsessed with not having to directly jump on enemies? I mean yes, Colors is much more charming and fairer than Unleashed (by what I’m seeing), but they seem to love keeping Sonic in one direction with no ability to go forward without being shot forward again. I’m really not happy with every loop I’ve seen in Colors starting off with a dashpad. It lacks all sense, ESPECIALLY considering can already launch himself to full speed up it via boost.
In a nutshell, Iizuka likes games that allow little input and play themselves over games that blend speed, platforming and free movement.
If he wants to keep on doing Sonic games I suggest he keeps doing the Unleashed styled ones, while leaving Platinum Games do mainstream 2D games (since Dimps seems to think Rush is a better game to base S4 off of than Sadv1 or S3K).
I’m chalking this one up to his limited grasp of the English language and possibly mild dementia.
@Cody Collins: You just complained about the Unleashed-style gameplay being linear, then suggested that Iizuka should carry on using it for future games.
Bit of a contradiction, there.
He’s not saying it’s “better,” he says he hopes it’ll be “just as good as or POSSIBLY better than the 2D Sonic games.”
It is reashuring they’re addressing problems in past games though.
It looks like a nice game, but I just know there’s going be a fraction of the Sonic fanbase who will still blindly hate this game due to their 3D-bias, and constantly demonize this game, (even by some who’ll never play it) regardless how decent it is. Some people just won’t be pleased no matter what they do with the series at this point.
I meen, heck Sonic 4′s not even out yet, and half the so-called “fans” are complaining, & criticizing about every li’l detail about it.
Without starting that discussion again, the fans that you say are complaining are only doing so because of Sega’s marketing campaign. If Sega wasn’t heralding this as the return to classic-style gameplay, it’d be brushed aside by the fans you’re referring to just as callously as Sonic Rush Adventure was.
They both look fine to me. So whatever.
But that does not stop the 2-D games from being great. I support both 2-D and 3-D Sonic. It is healthier to be open-minded rather then flaming and complaining about it. Can’t everyone just calm down for a moment? Neither Sonic 4, Colors and Free Riders are out yet, and no one will write reviews until they played the games when they come out. All I suggest is to be patient as I said before.
Kits: the reason I said that is because I just noticed he’s obsessed with that gameplay style. Since Unleashed gameplay has that and classic gameplay does NOT; he should stick with Unleashed and stop touching Sonic 4, especially if he really thinks Colors will be just as good if-not-better than the classics.
I don’t care what the fanboys say. I’ve reserved Colors and I’m eagerly awaiting the arrival of 4. I’m not really interested in Kinect so I probably won’t be getting Free Riders. But I’ve reserved Colors! So I don’t care about Microsoft’s greedy attempt to steal Nintendo’s motion control audience!
@Silverwind(And everyone else who has said something similar)
HE’S BEEN THE DIRECTOR/PRODUCER OF SONIC GAMES SINCE DAY 1. And really, even Shigeru Miyamoto thinks certain newer games are better than others of the same series. It’s something EVERY Director/Producer does as it is a way of making people feel better about the game.
And really, if he said “This game isn’t as good as classic 2D games, but better than a lot of the 3D games” or something similar, would that make you want to buy it more or less? I’m guessing LESS.
LOL, I said “And really” twice in that last comment. Please replace that first “and really” with err… Nothing. Mind block it to make my comment more… Correct.
Objection to Objection:
Iizuka never had anything to do with any of the classic titles besides S3K, which he was an assisstant level designer (Hirokazu Yasuhara did all the major work as he sat at the side and did some object placement every now and then). Noato Oshima and Yuji Naka (creator and co-creator/producer) led Sonic 1 together, Oshima designed and produced/directed Sonic CD, and Yuji Naka programmed and produced the Death Egg Saga (2-3K).
Just thought I’d clarify that since what you said was very much wrong.
@Objection
Have you ever tried looking him up on Wikipedia before? How about the history of Sonic Team? Sonic’s History? You should try it sometime because what you said is TOTAL BS!!!
No, see, I count Sonic 1-3 the very beginning of Sonic as it pretty much is.
@Silverwind
Wikipedia is NOT a source you can definitely trust for information. I could make it say Godzilla was the creator of Sonic and Yuji Naka is supreme ruler of the universe if I wanted to.
He’s just saying what all directors/producers should.
Oh and he’s atleast been with Sonic Team since SA1 or 2. Not sure, but I went to go beat the final boss in SA2 and saw his name scroll up on the screen with Director on the top of his name or something. But whatever, I messed up, you gonna slay me for it?
Either way, my point is valid. It would be dumb of him to say that this game ISN’T as good as the 2D classics, but maybe better than some of the newer ones. As he WANTS you to buy it, I’m sure it would kill at least some of your confidence in the game if he said so.
@Silverwind
I suggest you go check the Sonic the Hedgehog(series) article on Wikipedia. According to it (now), Godzilla, Yuji Naka: The Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and Someone Not Important created Sonic.
As I said, I wouldn’t suggest going to Wikipedia for EVERYTHING you want to know about. As many people do this ALL THE TIME.
@OBJECTION;
And for every one person who posts false information, there’s at least two people and a bot there to change it to be correct. Just because anyone can change it doesn’t mean it can’t be changed back. I don’t see why everyone fails to realize this when they brush off Wikipedia as a viable source.
@Objection
Oh really, you changed the names of the creators of Sonic? I dare you to change their names. So come on back up your words. Prove that Wikipedia can’t be trusted because it looks very accurate according to it (now).
Iizuka has not been the director/producer for every Sonic game since Day 1 so I say that statement of yours to be TOTAL BS. I can even name a few from the top of my head that he was not a director or producer of. Sonic 06, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic and the Secret Rings and Sonic and the Black Knight as good examples. I hate to disappoint you but, I already checked the Sonic the Hedgehog(series) on Wikipedia. Thanks to Wikipedia, I know quite a bit about the Sonic series. In fact, I use Wikipedia for several things actually. Wikipedia is usually very useful so I don’t care if you trust it or not.
Whether or not this game is as good as the 2D games is all a matter of opinion. Or in this case, Iizuka’s and Sonic Teams opinion. If that is their opinion, so what. Why should that or the fact that he, like any other developer, wants you to buy the game that he spent a lot of time ruin my confidence. You tell me why it should.
@Silverwind
Their opinion matters because they’re the developers. If the honestly think that this game is better than the classics, that sure as hell not be a empty statement. It has to have some amount of merit. I mean, look at it this way: If THEY think its better than Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, it may very well be. At the same time, they’re advertising Sonic 4 ,as “just as good as the classics.” So basically, they’re undermining Sonic 4 to emphasize Colors. Not good marketing, after making Sonic 4 look like the messia of the Sonic series.
I know not every game.
Anyways, I misread one of the comments and mistook it for yours.
The person I was replying to was Cody Collins, my point still stands.
And I do use Wikipedia a lot also. It’s just you don’t wanna go there for everything. With any site on the internet that has information on it you don’t want to go to them for everything. I like both TSS and TSSZ for Sonic info, but I check BOTH daily because some things TSS finds TSSZ might not have up yet and vice-versa.