![“A comic was never in the plans.” After a long, messy legal battle, Ken Penders is finally moving forward with plans for “The Lara-Su Chronicles”, a story that details the […]](http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ken_penders_header.jpg "Ken Penders reveals new direction for “The Lara-Su Chronicles”")
“A comic was never in the plans.”
After a long, messy legal battle, Ken Penders is finally moving forward with plans for “The Lara-Su Chronicles”, a story that details the further adventures of the Guardian’s daughter. Appearing at San Diego Comic Con this year, Ken revealed on his site some interesting news regarding the future of The Lara-Su Chronicles:
We’re already developing a film project and meeting with a number of interested parties. To that end, let me present the new Lara-Su:
We’ll be seeing more of her and other characters in the cast along with story pages over the next several weeks. The talk on the nets seems to center on, “Who’s going to buy Pender’s comic?” We’ll folks, a comic was never in the plans. So what are the plans? Digital downloads, graphic novels, possible film, TV, and/or Internet projects, character licensing, yes. But never a comic. Your comments and questions are welcome in the new “The Lara-Su Chronicles” forum. And look for the new Web site, http://thelara-suchronicles.com, coming soon!
What do you guys think? Are you interested in seeing what’s in store for the future of Lara-Su?
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She’s gotta strong chin.
I like Ken’s old art style heaps better.
(*insert long long awkward pause*) …. this is… this is absolutely terrible. I’ve seen student st my Art Institute and DeviantArt that did miles better. As an artist, that is just… horrible to me. The freaky human-like face and chin… terrible Photoshop work…. my artistic side is raging internally. I knew his art was bad even way back. But this took it to a new level. Hell, the guy even took photos and put them as backgrounds in the Sonic/Knuckles comic that did not work with the inked 2D art at all. A lack of a good sense of a decent composition.
…..and does the guy not know that a graphic novel is the same as a comic? Its just a comic in a compilation form. A different comic publishing format.
If only “A Moment of Archie Sonic” were active to comment on this.
Oh gosh do I miss A Moment of Archie Sonic. :c
Am I the only one who thinks she now looks more like the generic dog people from Ducktales? Is Disney going to get on his case if they see this?
Seriously, just make them into humans…
hahahaha
T, I made an earlier post about she looks like teevee(transcestite) charecter from good troop. So you and I both picked up that Disney essence. It’s not good.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Disney sued him if they found out?
Okay, I’m not trying to be mean (as we’ve already been shown how Pender’s used to draw Lara Su), but that design is terrible.
I was going to give this new series a chance, but after seeing how the art direction is going to be for this new series… I’ll sadly pass.
Eww….she looks ugly now. I like Lara su Archie style better…
Not sure whether to laugh or vomit.
Do I detect a little jealousy here? I suppose when one of you has accomplished even a quarter of the professional cred Mr. Penders has built over the years, I’ll take these comments more seriously.
Lol really? Then at the very least tell us what’s GOOD about this promo art instead of basically saying “ken’s a professional so it must be good and everyone else is just jealous!” Otherwise you can’t be taken seriously at all my friend.
Stop it. No. Truly. Stop it.
There’s a difference between being a Ken Penders supporter and being delusional.
http://www.bumbleking.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6506
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?491146-Introducing-the-new-lara-sue-version-2-0!-Even-better-than-ever!!!!!
There is an absolutely overwhelming amount of negative feedback to this project, and the promotional art itself, and your best reply to it is “do I detect a little jealousy?”
I’ll go ahead and use your own card here.
I suppose when you show me an equal amount of people who are on board for Ken Penders work, supporting him and are an amount higher than I can count using merely both my hands, then your comments will be taken a lot more seriously.
At best, you’re trying to gain support through delusion. Your arguments as I’ve seen are the same as saying “95% of the world hates it? So what? 5% is better than nothing.” Rather than face the majority, you’re focusing on the very slim 5% and, much like Ken on his own board have stated, are using that to boost your egos. And that in and of itself, is absolutely foolish.
@Licht Not interested in joining your smear campaign, sorry. The day I see your name on as many credits as I have Mr. Penders, maybe I’ll take you more seriously. You really should should take time to read them and posts more thoroughly. That could help. I saw Penders on TV not too long ago cited for his comics work, but funny I didn’t see you anywhere. Did I miss you? And yes, I’ve seen some of Mr. Penders work both in and outside of Sonic and find it amazing. Admittedly, I’m not an artist. I wish I did have that sort of talent. But unless you’re working or have worked in the industry, I just have to take some of these comments about his talents with a grain of salt.
Let me get this straight, truebluesonicfan… You’re saying ONLY people that ARE “famous,” and HAVE worked in the industry HAVE ANY credibility to YOU? And that if a person, regardless of how much SENSE he or she makes, ISN’T “famous,” and HAVE NOT worked in the industry, then NOTHING they say has ANY validity to YOU because they’re NOBODIES? Cause what you typed there, in response to Licht, sure seems that way.
Nope. Not saying that at all. Crebilbility is earned. There are several posters here I find extremely credible. Others, less so. This particular person I don’t find credible at all. Others are credible until proven otherwise. You certainly don’t need to be famous or a professional to make sense. On the other hand, when one person I’ve never heard goes around consistently trash talking someone with a list of professional credits longer than my arm, I gotta wonder where they are coming from. And if what’s being said doesn’t add up either, well that just makes things worse.
The day I see your name on as many credits as I have Mr. Penders, maybe I’ll take you more seriously.
And this is what makes you a God damn fool.
As again, by your own words you, whom has little credibility outside of being someone arguing on a message board is telling someone else on the same message board that “they are to not be taken more seriously.”
Yet you’re also taking about a “smearing campaign” when I linked to other boards, filled with other people who have negative opinions of Ken Penders aside from myself. That isn’t a smear campaign. That’s merely fact that there are others in the world whom share sentiment that opposes yours.
“You really should should take time to read them and posts more thoroughly.”
….Again. Your hypocrisy is astounding. You chose to ignore the several people within this thread, the boards I’ve mentioned, merely to jump behind the pitiful argument of “Ken is famous and you’re not,” then under belief that because he is, he can do no wrong. You saw Penders on TV not too long ago cited for his comics work? Give a link. Show an article. Give a Youtube clip. Otherwise you’re merely fluffing a man’s ego for the sake of your own personal gain with nothing behind it. Give actual example rather than weak rhetoric.
I’ll even use the reply you gave to Strike Carson above.
Your reply:
On the other hand, when one person I’ve never heard goes around consistently trash talking someone with a list of professional credits longer than my arm
Read my above post. My inital post.
If you won’t allow me to give you the highlight of it which you conveniently choose to ignore.
“I suppose when you show me an equal amount of people who are on board for Ken Penders work, supporting him and are an amount higher than I can count using merely both my hands, then your comments will be taken a lot more seriously.”
Why have not you done so?
I’m not making a smearing campaign. All I have to do is link to other forums and point.
The negative comments against him are right there. On this board, I’ve found aside from you, two militant supporters of what Ken is doing which are Paul-Agnew and BobR; thus “an amount I can count using merely both my hands.” In this case one hand. So not, I wasn’t lying with what I said. If you can show others who will back you, then do so.
Being perfectly honest, I’m not speaking against Ken. Merely telling the truth which you have not been able to give me evidence to disprove.
You’re the one who escalated this conversation. I’ve no qualm with continuing it. However, you’re to best be aware of the mistake of your actions before you decide to preach onto me what you feel I’m doing that you dislike while having the double standard of doing so yourself. Otherwise, your replies are that which I’ve stated earlier: Those of a petulant child digging his feet into the dirt and screaming stop picking on someone while looking for every excuse to feel threatened by something that wasn’t said, as shown in your previous replies on another thread and this one. Thus, my belief in you being heavily delusional, and constantly advising you to stop.
@truebluesonicfan: Hmm, with the way you worded that, I take it you won’t listen to anything I have to say then. So it won’t do me any good to ask you to show us any forums where the people you speak of are actually in favor of the Lara-Su Chronicles, rather than the people being negative about it or only having a morbid curiosity about it being the majority. Since I already destroyed that credibility in your eyes when I pointed out a few things Penders had done in the past to explain why I don’t like the guy, and why I’m not in support of this project.
@Strike Carson I haven’t made a comment one way or the other about the Lara-Su Chronicles. Actually, find you quite reasonable, although I don’t always agree with you.
@Licht Wow. You’re really going off the deep end aren’t you? You can yell, scream, jump up and down, call names and throw as many temper-tantrums as you like. I will continue to think for myself.
Here’s the deal: people don’t like being misled. Stop doing it and you’ll go further with your claims.
Case in point: I never once said no negative opinions (or posts) exist about Ken Penders. Nor did I say he could no wrong. In fact, I made no comments whatsoever about his popularity. I did however question why I should listen to you and some others complain about him or his art work, ad nauseum, when I continue to see his byline on comics for DC, Marvel, Archie and Disney, but I don’t see yours anywhere. Anyone can complain. Viciousness can be infectious in the right environment, especially when it’s fueled by misinformation.
Are you saying you’re complaining just because, in your mind, everyone else is? Pity, if that’s true.
If you want to know when I saw Mr. Penders interviewed on television and why, here’s an idea, try TV Guide. They get paid for that sort of thing. Believe it or not there is a world out there, outside of the Sonic Universe.
Again, I’m not interested in joining your smear campaign. I don’t think Mr. Penders is a god. I don’t think he’s satan, either. I refuse to be dragged into your attempts to “prove” one over the other. I’m just not interested in trashing his art, his book, his looks, or his tenure with Archie. I’m not jumping on the bandwagon to attack everything he does just because I’m mad that he took a stand for his rights.
I actually think I feel like most fans, truly tired of the vitriol being tossed all over the internet. Yes, I do want the characters to stay in the comics. But I think Penders and everyone else should be paid fairly and recognized for their work — no more, no less. (I also happen to think Archie has a history of treating its creative team poorly, and if the recent lawsuit between Jon Goldwater and Nancy Silberkleit is any indication, certainly is not above maligning an opposing party and throwing lots of mud).
Bashing me or anyone else who agrees (or disagrees) certainly doesn’t make you in the right. My not being willing to indulge you doesn’t make me wrong.
My take on this is probably close to this article in Sonic Stadium. I quote (sorry if quoting outside Sonic publications is verboten):
SONIC STADIUM, QUOTE: ” Near his friend Elliot S! Maggin’s booth in the artist alley at the San Diego Comic Con sits a man who is currently criticized, respected and envied.
‘Criticized by *some* [emphasis mine] Sonic comic fans who feel that his recent copyright case with Archie Comics is taking away many of their favorite characters from the Sonic book.
*Respected* because in his tenure on the Sonic comics, he created such a legacy of characters that the comic suffers with them gone.
And lastly, *envied* by other comic creators who would give their drawing arm to have the chance of owning their creations back. To them, Penders is living out a dream come true. ” END QUOTE
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2013/07/an-interview-with-ken-penders/
Yep. I agree with that, every word.
I’m on pretty much all of the Sonic forums and invariably since this started someone comes on and makes outrageous, erroneous or misleading statements — most of them claiming “Penders is suing Archie and forcing them to stop using Sonic characters”. Is it any wonder the community is up in arms?
And when I think about this, I wonder who on earth benefits by posting false information and tearing apart every shred of work the man has done over the years. Each time, I come up with only one answer to that to that question.
Either way, you may as well quit asking. Call me all of the names you want, I’m not joining you in this. No interest.
So you have nothing good to say about the art just that Ken is credible through his work in the industry so everyone else’s opinion is invalid to you except your own…. Might want to reword some of what you’re writing because its probably not coming across as you’re intending it to be… But still I kinda wanna know your thoughts on the ART, not the man behind it because that’s what this article is about, the promo art that ken put out not really Ken himself.
@Trez Please don’t put words in my mouth. I said I’m tired of all of the venom, and not once did I say everyone’s opinion is invalid. I’ve tried to stick to the facts, as I know them, and not be sidetracked by speculation and mean-spirited attacks. After all, you know what they say, opinions are like a*ssh*les, everyone has them, and they all stink ;-).
It’s a fact that people are posting mean things all over the internet. No question. Whether what’s being said is actually true or has merit is another thing entirely. That’s why I’ve avoided being dragged down into the mire.
In terms of the art, I already said I prefer Ken’s earlier drawings. I’m kind of fond of the characters as I remember them. He seems to obviously be going for something different, which is his prerogative. I read somewhere that he is going for a totally different feel for the characters now, more like a painting than a comic, so the characters have kind of a 3-D feel, instead of traditional flat line and color. I think he said it’s being designed that way with the ultimate goal of eventually moving toward 3-D imagery sometime down the line. It’s really hard for me to comment on that because it’s a style I’m not really familiar with. That’s certainly not the Knuckles comics I know. It’s very different from what I’m accustomed to and I want to find out more about it.
Well when you say things “you have no credibility” and “when one of you has accomplished even a quarter of the professional cred Mr. Penders has built over the years, I’ll take these comments more seriously.” How do expect people to interpret that other than you invalidating their opinion in favor of Ken’s cred? Like I said its worded poorly so no harm.
And yea people are attacking the man pretty harshly, but that doesn’t mean his art can’t be criticized fairly here and a lot of people have valid complaints about the art and as a professional you should never be content with mediocrity or ignore contrstuctive criticism (his supporters on Ken’s board bring up very good points about his art that i hope Ken takes to heart) but If Ken can’t make the art look more pleasing than this to where people can actually distinguish how old Lara-Su is supposed to be then he should hand the art chores to an artist who can display his work right (just not whoever the hell Many Hands is). I havent heard that he’s going for a 3D look so that’s new info to me. Last I heard from Ken himself about the style of the book was that he was gonna do stock images and poses for the book, so I’m glad that’s changed but he still needs to actually draw his backgrounds.
@Licht Because I won’t join you in your rants, you stoop to name calling. Post your diatribes all you like. You can try to bully me, but you just come off looking worse for the wear. Name calling doesn’t make an argument. It just makes you look small.