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Early Boom, or Bust? Opinion Almost Split
It’s no secret that fans had plenty to say upon Sega’s recent confirmation of Sonic Boom for TV–a story we exclusively reported back in June, months ahead of Sega’s official announcement. With opinion so varied, we opted in our latest @Issue poll to ask what your first reaction was to hearing of Sonic’s return to television–and perhaps most glaringly, that teaser image you see above.
Judging from our poll, however, Sega does have a bit of work cut out for them. Out of 892 votes, 53 percent said they were concerned upon their first reaction of Sonic Boom TV. Still, 47 percent voted Excited, so while a six percentage point difference isn’t awful, it shows how polarizing the series can potentially be when it debuts next year.
A new poll is now available to vote up. The above results can be discussed below in the comments.
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Wandering fox, i refer you to my earlier comment as well as the rest of you people
The fox says…..waaaaaaaay too much.
You guys catch what I did there? Ha cha cha cha
Tell me about it. So much for throwing long comments at long comments.
I may say too much, but honestly, I’m not stupid nor a child.
Again I ask, HOW OLD ARE YOU? It would help SO MUCH if I knew where you were coming from a lot better. At this point I don’t know if you’re a bitter adult or an overly insightful middle schooler.
I’m not telling you, my age is a private secret and you’re not supposed to know. One thing for sure is that I’m much older than 18 and not an immature little childish brat that you think I am.
Hey, I did say “bitter adult” didn’t I? Anyway, I’m hoping that this means that they at least taught you in college English about logical fallacies and how you need to balance an argument. Simply saying that animes are superior to cartoons and listing everything that bugs you about cartoons doesn’t show that you have an argument, it just shows that you have an opinion. I am aware that the point you were trying to get across was your opinion, but if you are going to set it up as an argument, then you need to balance that argument. Saying that animes are superior to cartoons is a fallacy already, there are many ways to analyze both, other than just their art styles (which are of entirely different tastes by the way). There are some cartoons that have overall better plots than some animes, but that doesn’t decide which genre is better, nothing can decide that. It’s purely based on personal preferences and not empirical beliefs or dogmas. Whether you’re 19 years old or 40, I hope that understand at least that much, and are open to try new things and new genres.
Once again 1st comment i posted on this page. All of you. Proving my point. Rest my case.
You didn’t even MAKE a point. You asked a question. A very naive question that didn’t even warrant a response.
If you are a fan of something, you like it for what it is, and how it is. When that something is changed, if NATURALLY warrants fear and frustration. The more you like it, the bigger a fan you are, the more passionate that fear and frustration. How on earth does that NOT make sense?
If Sonic fandom to you is thoughtlessly swallowing anything painted blue then go waste your time playing that mobile Sonic knockoff from a couple months ago and keep your elitism to yourself.
Okay, now you are starting to sound like another “fox” snooping around here. That’s not the only thing that being a fan means. There is a lot more to it than that. Maybe that’s how your logic works for you, but you can’t seriously expect that to be an empirical truth. There are many fans who embrace change, the fans who fear it just tend to be louder and more outspoken. It’s possible for Sonic fans to have actually enjoyed all of the games preceding Lost World in some shape or form (yes, even 06 to some degree), just as it is possible for some Sonic fans to have hated everything before Lost World (yes, even the first Sonic game). To say that a true Sonic fan can only like what Sonic currently is and must hate any change to the formula is only fueling the fire that has started between the various parts of the fanbase years ago. You can be as conservative with Sonic as you like, but don’t expect EVERYONE to be in the same boat, and don’t write off people who are fine with change as being tools or sheep. Diversity is important in this fanbase, but conflict is what makes it so chaotic that not even other fanbases will socialize with us.
Woah woah woah. Not what I’m saying at all.
First of all, I’m not even saying that change is bad, merely that it’s a fairly natural reaction to be resistant to it, particularly if said change is a dramatic one. For example, if Sonic started wearing overalls and grew a mustache, I think a lot of people would be justly up-in-arms XD
I’m not saying “Sonic is X, and everyone should only like X”, but what I am saying is that when people fall in love with something, change isn’t always welcome (which is why we have all the divisions that we do), because that change runs the risk of abandoning the elements that caused people to become fans in the first place, or adding new elements that detract from that initial appeal.
Gameplay style changes are one thing, but changing the core character design is quite another. Subtle adjustments (green eyes!) can be fine, but reboots and dramatic overhauls border on becoming entirely new entities, regardless of whether they are still CALLED Sonic. Does that make sense? Refer back to the overalls and mustache thing. Would Sonic really still be Sonic in that case?
All I’m getting at here is that it’s not right to say that people aren’t “true fans” because they are resistant to change. It doesn’t make classic fans not fans because they hate the new games, it doesn’t make modern fans not fans because if they happen to hate the old ones, and it doesn’t make people who like ALL games not fans, because they don’t like the RIGHT games.
There are all different kinds of fans for all different kinds of reasons, and while that comes with and creates its own set of problems, at the root of things, all our complaints and fears are rooted in some kind of love for Sonic – whether that be for certain elements of his character design/personality, specific gameplay styles, or recurring themes within the series.
Well, it’s good to know where you are actually coming from. Thank you for clearing that up ChaoticFox. With all of these arguments happening lately it’s really hard to tell apart the blowhards from the rational ones.
Hero i already brought the one into this don’t you do it too the universe will go kablooey. XD jk but seriously it was bad enough i actually had to resort to putting it in the comment i made
Again, I lot of people are passionate about stuff, they just seem to be under the confusion that it means that when something strange or different happens, they have to go all Nostalgia Critic crazy about it. I’m not innocent of that either, I tend to do it quite a bit, but I still try to keep a level head when I can. What this means, hopefully, is that we all love Sonic to some degree for one reason or another and are concerned about anything compromising that love. But if it is true love for a series, than it won’t be destroyed at the drop of a hat just because of a TV show. I hope people realize that.
I don’t think we would be here commenting if our love were so easily destroyed. People like that would likely have already moved on long ago
Well, at least they know how to move on in some form. It’s the people who stay behind to bitch about things that bug me.
I should point out that while Wreck-It Ralph didn’t win the Best Animated Picture award for the Academy Awards (which went to, surprise, another Disney film), it did win the Best Animated Picture Annie Award, which animation people hold in much higher regard.
Oh yeah, which film won that award again?
Brave.
Oh yeah, that’s right. That was a good movie to, but the geek in me wanted Ralph to win. Still, at least I loved both movies, so in the end, I always would have won! MUHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!
Holy shit, there’s a kid here criticizing The Lion King? That cartoon is Hamlet for kids, for heaven’s sake! It’s borderline dangerous to show that movie to children, Scar being one of the most terrible villains in Disney history and killing the hero’s father (his own brother) in an atrociously coward and cruel way.
Also, not many people see this in the movie, but the whole Hakuna Matata segment is simply criticizing the hippie posturing that says everything’s fine while the world crumbles around you. It also contains a rightist message of order in society and explores the dangers of tyrant-led revolution using the lower classes as a mean to power (a rare, rare theme explored nowadays in our leftist world… only The Dark Knight Rises has touched this subject recently).
You gotta be extremely simplistic to dislike The Lion King because you find the characters annoying. Holy crap!
0_o……wow, I didn’t think you could see that in such a film (aside from the whole Hamlet thing, that one was obvious).
While I’m not sure if I can see something like that tucked away within a Disney film, I will give it credit that there is something to be found by analyzing that movie. But there might be something to your point and I’m just up too early to agree with it right now or something, I don’t know. But it’s still an interesting point worth hearing.
Either way, The Lion King’s views are derogatory, terrible and not worth agreeing!
Really? Disney debates again?
Come on, guys.
-T
Opinion? Or empirical fact? I’m dying to know.
The Lion King really isn’t rightist. Especially with the whole “Hakuna Matata” and “Circle of Life” garbage which scream leftist to me.
Hahahaha Hakuna Matata, as I said, is the author of the movie poking fun at hippie mentality. Simba wanted to be king for the power, but once his father dies and the throne is usurped, he flees and learns not to care. “No worries”, they say. It also means being a complete dumbass while the world crumbles under Scar’s power.
“Circle of Life” is rightist in the sense that everyone has a place, and some are lower, some are higher, and that’s ok. As long as there’s a certain kind of reverence between every actor in the play of life, everything is good (Mufasa teaches Simba to respect even his food). Scar, on the other hand, wants to break this Circle by promoting the hyenas to the top of the chain not by their merit, but because they think they have the right to be there. Of course, Scar is just using them as a mean to power. The landscape changes and there’s famine over Serengeti until Simba returns.
See Mao Tse Tung’s “The Great Famine” after the Great Leap Forward. There’s a documentary on Youtube even (chinese with english subtitles). Interestingly, in the time of the great famine, the peasants even resorted to eating cadavers. Can you imagine the hunger throughout China?
So yeah, “The Circle of Life” is rightist in the sense that it preaches that everyone benefits from a certain kind of order, with classes and duties and individualities respected and preserved.
I wish death on all the movie’s characters and that destroying the Pride Lands might actually be a good thing to do and not bad, and I’m rightist (In fact, wishing death on fictional characters like Simba, Scar, Shenzi or whoever from that movie wouldn’t be a crime. They’re not real). So what you’ve said about The Lion King being rightist is false *Is off to skin Mufasa after he’s dead and make a comfy skin rug out of him that ends up decorating in front of my fireplace*.
Now, enough ranting and arguing about this. Let’s get back on topic, shall we?
Are you excited or concerned about Sonic Boom? I’m both in some cases, which I’m hoping that the show would be a good one. At least Tails is back (he’s my favorite character), so that’s good. I’m hoping that Blaze would show up (I like her, too), but knowing that they decided that the main stars of the show be the classic characters of Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Amy (Eggman has a likely chance as well, due to being the Sonic series’ main villain), the chances of the other characters appearing is not as likely as I hoped. Then again, we will never know.
I like because all the good guy characters I like are there.
As soon as another character is added to the show (except Robotnik and Metal Sonic), I’ll instantly start hating it.
Yep, that’s pretty much it.
It’s already been confirmed that other characters will eventually appear and that completely NEW ones will be introduced as well
Again Wandering Fox, you’re falling into a pit of logical fallacies. Just because you don’t like a movie or its characters doesn’t mean that your opinions are fact and should be recognized as fact by everyone else. Whether aspects of the film are rightest or leftest or not is another debate entirely (I personally prefer no politics in my Disney or other favorite shows, unless necessary). If you want to kill off all of the characters in this movie…….I feel deeply concerned, but you are entitled to those feelings anyway, but going around parading those feelings and opinions as the absolute truth is fallacious and making you look like a blowhard to other people, whether they like Disney or not.
And nothing was accomplished in the comment section that day. (Seriously, we went from talking about the poll to criticizing everyone else’s criticisms. Of course, that’s to be expected in this type of article/news story.)
Yeah, I think somehow I may have started talking about comic books at one point…..now I’m utterly lost as to what we are talking about now.
Welcome to TSSZ News.
/jk
Actually metaryan i was talking about how unbelieveable these so called “fans” are
Well, at least I’m a sane Sonic fan and not one of those so-called crazy members of the fandom.
We all know your past record, so stop bragging, kiddo.
Whether you consider other people sane or not doesn’t exempt you from other people viewing you the same way. I personally find it a bit crazy that you hate Disney to this level. I mean there are people who hate Disney, sure, but not to the degree of wanting to kill fictional characters (what’s the point dude?). And I’m also sure that you find it crazy that I love Disney despite all of its cliches, stereotypes, and choice of humor, all of which I am fully aware of (I also wanted to avoid this info, but I was born on the year of this movie’s release, so I grew up with it as if it were a sibling). But really, is what either of us think of each other really relevant to anything? Is a Sonic fan who acts like a fanatic towards anyone else any less of a fan than a mild mannered Sonic fan? I don’t think so, because weighing how much of a fan someone is based upon how they act is only looking at part of the picture. Those “so-called crazy members of the fandom” might be fanatical but they are still Sonic fans, even if they don’t know what they are doing half the time. But I do hope that you aren’t just referring to the people you’ve been arguing with so far as the crazy ones. You want to know what real crazy Sonic fans are? Look up “Sonic Passion”, you’ll see who the real crazies are.
Yes, I heard of Sonic Passion, and it is horrendous and revolting. I’m so glad that I’m not part of it and never decided to go there.
Then again, fictional characters aren’t real.
Understand, there isn’t anything wrong with having some form of an attraction to a fictional character, but the real problem lies in exactly how far that attraction goes. They’re not simply crazy because they are attracted to Sonic and co., they’re crazy because of how far they would go and to what lengths they would go to to prove their “love”. If there’s a spectrum with angry bitter Sonic fans at one end, then these people would be all the way at the other end. Crazy does go both ways…so they say.
Being a fan doesn’t mean having to follow the definition of fanatic
noun
a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, esp. for an extreme religious or political cause.
synonyms: zealot, extremist, militant, dogmatist, devotee, adherent;
Yup, those synonyms pretty much describe some of the people we have met here today.
Not me. I’m good.
Sorry, but there are some people here who would beg to differ on that.
Man, you guys take this waaaaay too seriously.
Sigh, yeah, we do. I think we all just need to take a moment to chill on this topic. I absolutely hate the fact that we are debating over practically nothing, this topic has gotten stale fast.
I’m so glad someone else sees it. I can’t be the only one who keeping their comments until the first episode comes out.
I am a sane fan too i just can’t believe how i am the only one not complaining about their designs i mean that may not be knux it could be storm also that ripoff made me gag at the sight of it
Wouldn’t that be funny if Storm was the only Rogue to make it into the show? I can just imagine Jet the Hawk throwing darts at a Storm poster somewhere out there right now…
As for sonic passion that you mentioned hero o_0
Yup, I just HAD to open that can of worms…good thing the site is down though.
Okay, I had enough with arguments. I’m not going to post any comments on this Sonic Boom article on TSSZ anymore if it became a warzone just because of a little comment I’ve made, saying my opinions. Too many people whine at me because of my views. I respect everyone’s opinions, don’t get me wrong, but too many people can’t stand mine. From now on, I just gonna write this last post and press the back button, and just move on.
I’m anticipating Sonic Boom, but really. Why need a new Sonic TV series when we already have four Sonic shows, and that there are several other video games to choose from that would be a good choice or idea to adapt into a movie or TV show? I’m hoping that Sonic’s not the only video game brand that’s getting a new TV series, movie or whatever.
Right now, I’ll be off to play the games.
Ten bucks says he’s back replying to things on this very article before the end of the week.
It’s not that people necessarily have a problem with your opinions Wanderer, it’s that you unnecessarily try and relate things back to your sheer and utter contempt for any and all things Disney even when it’s not remotely related to the article (especially the goddamn arguments you started over Lion King of all things) and then completely disregard someone else’s views because it doesn’t click with yours.
You’ve done this song and dance in the past, and you still haven’t changed. Pretty sad, bro.
Something tells me that he has some kind of mental condition that he is hiding from us, because no sane man can have the faulty logic that he is having for years.
I didn’t want to be the one to say it, but… this.
“A LITTLE comment”!? I know I’m no saint when it comes to comment lengths, but you can’t write a full essay on how Sonic as a TV show doesn’t work and why Disney and all western animation sucks, and expect people to accept that as “one little comment”. You went off on an unnecessary tangent and from the sound of things, a lot of people didn’t think you had that much credibility to begin with (I certainly hope your English 2A teacher didn’t think the same thing). Commenting on other stuff is fine, just try to keep your anti-western/Disney commentary out of it, keep your comments shorter, and people will ignore your presence. Enjoy your games.
He kind of reminds me of Jose Argumedo on the Toonami Faithful Podcast. The guy works at ESPN and hates it. He takes every opportunity to tell people he “works for Disney” and that he says he’d rather work at Williams Street to help out with Toonami. That being said, I’m pretty sure he is not Wandering Fox, as he has respect for the company–he just doesn’t like most of their output as he likes his shows super-serious (whereas Wandering Fox apparently dislikes western animation because it takes artistic liberty, apparently).
I try not to say much about him (Wandering Fox and Argumedo), but considering I’ve been aspiring to be a writer for animated television ever since I was 5 years old, I can’t help but take some level of offense.
Wandering Fox: I just have to ask, do you live in Florida or California? Your hatred of all things Disney makes me think you live in either of those states, where they have DisneyWorld/Land, so most of what you’d see on a day-to-day basis is Disney-related merchandising and advertisments, among other things. Just curious.
Btw wandering fox i got to talk to the real mike pollock not just here but also on sonic stadium so your arguement is invalid